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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #323 on: July 05, 2022, 04:44:50 PM »
I suggest everyone join the same conference, one conference to rule them all.  Call it the Southeastern Big 50.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #324 on: July 05, 2022, 04:48:24 PM »

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #325 on: July 05, 2022, 04:55:53 PM »
I just realized that's a troll account anyway.  BobTrollsby.  Lulz.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #326 on: July 05, 2022, 04:57:38 PM »
Heh!
Soooo....Oregon State then?
Seriously, if they are planning to take the six most valuable what would that be?

My guess:
  • Oregon
  • Stanford 
  • California 
  • Washington 
  • Colorado 
  • ASU
  • Utah
  • Arizona 
  • Washington State 
  • Oregon State 

Maybe?

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #327 on: July 05, 2022, 05:09:55 PM »
Seriously, if they are planning to take the six most valuable what would that be?

My guess:
  • Oregon
  • Stanford
  • California
  • Washington
  • Colorado
  • ASU
  • Utah
  • Arizona
  • Washington State
  • Oregon State

Maybe?

Yeah that's probably about right.

And I think you have to assume Stanford will say no thanks, and Cal-Berkeley probably would as well.  The most logical in terms of geography would be Arizona, ASU, Colorado, Utah.  And with BYU already set to enter the B12, that's another factor in favor of Utah.

Would it be possible to get Oregon and Washington?  I've stated I think Oregon's a bad add for the B1G, but they'd be a good add for the B12.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #328 on: July 05, 2022, 06:15:03 PM »
Why is it a bad add outside of geography? Backers with deep pockets and a rabid fanbase not huge but they bring a level of excitement
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #329 on: July 05, 2022, 06:17:30 PM »
Oregon's TV ratings are probably as good as any PAC program at the moment

not saying much, but everything is relative
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #330 on: July 05, 2022, 06:19:46 PM »
I have thought underperforming programs are at Illinois, North Carolina, and Washington.

(OK, I used to add UGA in that mix in a different way.)


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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #331 on: July 05, 2022, 06:28:32 PM »
Why is it a bad add outside of geography? Backers with deep pockets and a rabid fanbase not huge but they bring a level of excitement
I think Oregon is a bad add for the B1G because they're TOO competitive.  They don't bring significant TV markets nor do they bring any new recruiting grounds that the B1G didn't already gain by adding UCLA/USC.  But, they're good enough to challenge the established powers of the B1G and beat them on the field.  They're 4-0 in games aginst the B1G over the last 5 years.  Why add a potential loss for your top teams and a very likely loss for the bottom 2/3 of your conference, if it's not bringing in any incremental TV dollars and it's not opening up new recruiting grounds?

This is just my personal take. If I'm the B1G commissioner, or the AD at Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin... I'd have NO desire to see them entering my conference.

I've also heard the rumor that the LA schools actually don't want the B1G to invite Oregon, because the Ducks have been too successful in recruiting Southern California and this is their opportunity to cut them off at the knees.  But that sounds mostly like just typical internet rumor mill BS.


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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #332 on: July 05, 2022, 06:33:46 PM »
I would chuckle if Oregon is left out and UDubb gets in.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #333 on: July 05, 2022, 10:16:45 PM »
I think Oregon is a bad add for the B1G because they're TOO competitive.  They don't bring significant TV markets nor do they bring any new recruiting grounds that the B1G didn't already gain by adding UCLA/USC.  But, they're good enough to challenge the established powers of the B1G and beat them on the field.  They're 4-0 in games aginst the B1G over the last 5 years.  
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #334 on: July 05, 2022, 11:30:57 PM »
I mean, didn't they already have this, with the Big Ten, until the Big Ten just decided to steal their LA teams?


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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #335 on: July 05, 2022, 11:32:19 PM »
Seriously, if they are planning to take the six most valuable what would that be?

My guess:
  • Oregon
  • Stanford
  • California
  • Washington
  • Colorado
  • ASU
  • Utah
  • Arizona
  • Washington State
  • Oregon State

Maybe?
I think WSU is comfortably behind the rest.  They had pockets of success with football, but Oregon State has much better investment across the board I believe.  Not that either one is much of a catch

 

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