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utee94

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #182 on: July 02, 2022, 04:27:19 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on July 02, 2022, 03:17:34 PM
That logic inspired USC and UCLA, but that was the Big 10 instead of the new Big 12. Big difference.

BYU would be in a conference that contains four teams from their timezone including their primary rival, plus Oregon, Stanford, Cal and UDub.

Probably a little more enticing than chasing the Cincinnati and Orlando markets in a conference where the closest team is two large states away, with nothing that even remotely resembles a rivalry, while OSU2 and W Virginia are your biggest games.
Money is what's enticing and BYU leaving for a PAC leftover conference without USC and UCLA, would result in lower earnings than in the New Big 12.

The television ratings are clear, and that's all that matters.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #183 on: July 02, 2022, 04:37:18 PM »
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #184 on: July 02, 2022, 04:44:22 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 02, 2022, 04:37:18 PM

https://twitter.com/BiggerTen/status/1543266491394658307?s=20&t=Wt_mGzmIL54yHQOFhTtAgQ

Yup.  That's pretty much all that needs to be said, about this current topic.  The gap between the haves and have nots has never been bigger, and it's only widening every year.

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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #185 on: July 02, 2022, 05:22:27 PM »
The gap was a lot bigger in the 70s, when every conference was thoroughly dominated by their blue bloods, and a Big Ten team losing to a Mac team was completely unthinkable. 
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #186 on: July 02, 2022, 05:49:01 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 02, 2022, 04:27:19 PM
Money is what's enticing and BYU leaving for a PAC leftover conference without USC and UCLA, would result in lower earnings than in the New Big 12.

The television ratings are clear, and that's all that matters.
Schools like Notre Dame, Stanford and BYU are uniquely situated in ways quite different from one another, but it makes predicting what they do a lot more difficult than a Texas or USC.

BYU and Notre Dame are run by Churches that are worth billions, and Stanford has an endowment five times that of USC. They don't need to take such a cavalier approach to Olympic sports travel in order to chase a TV budget.
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #187 on: July 02, 2022, 07:14:41 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 02, 2022, 04:37:18 PM

https://twitter.com/BiggerTen/status/1543266491394658307?s=20&t=Wt_mGzmIL54yHQOFhTtAgQ
and of the 9, how many were Texas/Oklahoma, USC/ND, and a combination of the Texas, Oklahoma, Notre Dame, USC/UCLA???

I'm guessing 8
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #188 on: July 02, 2022, 07:15:09 PM »
May be a meme of 4 people, outdoors and text that says 'NOTRE DAME B1G OREGON HI AND WASHINGTON COLORADO BUFFALOES'
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #189 on: July 02, 2022, 08:23:14 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 02, 2022, 04:44:22 PM
Yup.  That's pretty much all that needs to be said, about this current topic. The gap between the haves and have nots has never been bigger, and it's only widening every year.
I'm not so sure,I guess it depends on who ponies up the endorsement money.For instance this prolly fall right into Oregon/Nike's lap.How will it affect smaller venues such as bama or clemson.I'm guessing the Horns and Aggies should be OK maybe vaulted to the fore front but what about the sooners?I suppose the sooners may or may not be able to keep up So Cal should be fine. Personally i think it's all a bag of snakes. But hey maybe Warren Buffet gets the "Skers but up to snuff again.Catholic Church has a lot of coin doesn't mean its going to south bend.How many donators are there in Lousianna? Could see some perennial contenders where there previously weren't any. Hell the 'Canes might even be in the convo again
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #190 on: July 02, 2022, 08:26:50 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on July 02, 2022, 08:23:14 PM
I'm not so sure,I guess it depends on who ponies up the endorsement money.For instance this prolly fall right into Oregon/Nike's lap.How will it affect smaller venues such as bama or clemson.I'm guessing the Horns and Aggies should be OK maybe vaulted to the fore front but what about the sooners?I suppose the sooners may or may not be able to keep up So Cal should be fine. Personally i think it's all a bag of snakes. But hey maybe Warren Buffet gets the "Skers but up to snuff again.Catholic Church has a lot of coin doesn't mean its going to south bend.How many donators are there in Lousianna? Could see some perennial contenders where there previously weren't any. Hell the 'Canes might even be in the convo again

I have no idea what you just said, but you told it so well. :)
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #191 on: July 02, 2022, 08:29:34 PM »
of all the money sources, donors of substance, endorsement deals, fool's gold, blood money, bag men, any other source

media rights TV network money is the king by a wide margin

it's not close
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #192 on: July 03, 2022, 12:50:53 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 01, 2022, 04:16:34 PM
Kentucky really never seceded, aktually.  


 we are just splitting hairs. 

Clearly, they are part of the gang. 


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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #193 on: July 03, 2022, 01:48:47 AM »
NCs in the past 50 years:
current B1G w/ newly added teams:  13
current SEC w/ newly added teams:  24
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #194 on: July 03, 2022, 01:58:18 AM »
Congrats, guys, you got your college-NFL.  Thanks Big 10!!!
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Re: UCLA and USC
« Reply #195 on: July 03, 2022, 07:30:35 AM »
Dixie originally meant south of the MD line between MD and PA.

I don't know how all this shakes out and this point I'm past caring.

Do or do not.
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