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Topic: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25

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Re: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25
« Reply #196 on: November 26, 2023, 08:47:03 AM »
JJ McCarthy is amazing. No way UM wins that game with McNamara (or McCord even). He was the difference. Some of those passes he made were just superhuman and not normal.

The AXE is in Madison, as it should be. This was the first time in 3 games against the Goophs that Braelon Allen was healthy. It showed.


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The “ Game” was exactly as I thought and predicted.  Good game, entertaining for sure, and the better team won. 

Ohio State is a very good team, but Michigan is better- maybe the best team.  For OSU, their margin for error was tiny.  They would have had to be near perfect to pull off the upset. 

UM had 4 distinct advantages- and leveraged all four:
-more experienced/ and mobile QB
-more consistent running game
- better special teams
-home field

Very impressive performance by Michigan, again. No turnovers and almost no penalties

McCord was decent, but his early interception which gave UM their early TD was a hole OSU never dug out of.

Special teams: Michigan 3 for 3 on FGs, OSU 1 for 2. 

Buckeye punter averaged 34 yards. 34!  Michigan punter was way better,  and pinned OSU several times deep. 

Buckeyes defense was good. Michigan’s was better.



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Re: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25
« Reply #197 on: November 26, 2023, 09:06:04 AM »
Interesting perspective. Iowa gave up more than 22 points in one game. I have my doubts Iowa loses by more than 22. Iowa will score at least 3 points.
Michigan 24-9 PSU with 2 minutes to go in the game
McCarthy attempted 9 passes in that game
As much as PSU owned the LOS vs Iowa, Michigan is that much better.

If Iowa scores it will be with help from the defense or special teams
doubt they can drive 50+ yards vs that defense with their offense

35-3?  probably 42-3 like 2021
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Re: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25
« Reply #198 on: November 26, 2023, 09:16:34 AM »
My guess is 27-6.

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Re: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25
« Reply #199 on: November 26, 2023, 09:21:29 AM »
Michigan may rest starters in the 2nd half

keep the total down
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Re: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25
« Reply #200 on: November 26, 2023, 10:55:39 AM »

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Re: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25
« Reply #201 on: November 26, 2023, 11:07:18 AM »
Wisconsin holding onto the axe in the traditional way, weathering an early storm and slowly choking out the gophers, is what we’d like to see. Considering The overall poor quality of the season and a pair of ghastly losses, I’ll take a win there and an above .500 finish.

Cal closed out the PAC-12 with an upset to go bowling. I think UCLA’s kids might know their coach is out and have reacted badly to it, but the outcome is what it is. 

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Re: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25
« Reply #202 on: November 26, 2023, 12:18:43 PM »
The two ACCG participants playing sub. 500 SEC teams and going 1-1 with two close games is hilarious. 

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Re: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25
« Reply #203 on: November 26, 2023, 12:25:21 PM »
I watched the UK-UL game, it was entertaining.  UK was a bit of a hard luck team this season, started 5-0 and then ...

I also watched the Iron Bowl, pulling for Auburn of course.  Alabama seems to hit improbable passes far too often.  It nudged the betting line in the SEC CG a point to 5.5.

You'd think UGA is the better team, but they have found ways to lose to them in the past too often.  I hope they get Bowers and Mcconkey back.

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Re: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25
« Reply #204 on: November 26, 2023, 01:22:20 PM »
Georgia is much better than Alabama.  Alabama still has great athletes and a great coach, but I don't think this game is going to be particularly close.  It'll stay tight for a while but I see Georgia pulling out to a 14-17 point win by the end.

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Re: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25
« Reply #205 on: November 26, 2023, 01:49:28 PM »
I'd be delighted with any win of course.  Like many here, I view winning one's conference as a thing.  Do that, and you face two probably tough opponents with no more than a 60% chance of winning one game.  Usually.

If favorites win the CGs, we'll of course have UGA UM FSU UW (maybe Oregon).  The Dawgs got healthy and then had to hold four players out yesterday.

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Re: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25
« Reply #206 on: November 26, 2023, 01:52:35 PM »
I'd be delighted with any win of course.  Like many here, I view winning one's conference as a thing.  Do that, and you face two probably tough opponents with no more than a 60% chance of winning one game.  Usually.

If favorites win the CGs, we'll of course have UGA UM FSU UW (maybe Oregon).  The Dawgs got healthy and then had to hold four players out yesterday.
If Oregon beats U-Dub and Texas wins the B12 CCG, then Texas should slide ahead of them.  Horns have the better resume' and now there's a common opponent Texas Tech.  Oregon beat then 38-30, Texas beat them 57-7.

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Re: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25
« Reply #207 on: November 26, 2023, 01:58:15 PM »
That could be contentious.  Oregon would have beaten an undefeated UDubb (currently ranked #3 in one poll).

Oregon has a nice win over Utah, and would have avenged their only loss (on the road).

I THINK they'd go with Oregon over Texas.

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Re: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25
« Reply #208 on: November 26, 2023, 02:04:11 PM »
That could be contentious.  Oregon would have beaten an undefeated UDubb (currently ranked #3 in one poll).

Oregon has a nice win over Utah, and would have avenged their only loss (on the road).

I THINK they'd go with Oregon over Texas.

Currently and at season's end, Texas still has the stronger SOS.  And speaking cynically, Texas turns on more TV sets, and ESPN is hemorrhaging cash right now.

And then there's that common opponent comparison.  Beating Tech 57-7 > beating Tech 38-30.  That's a brand new data point that the committee has not yet been able to take into account.
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Re: Turkey Weekend SoC, 11/24-25
« Reply #209 on: November 26, 2023, 02:22:17 PM »
common opponent doesn't mean much
unless everything else is equal

and winning a conference today is more impressive than back in the 80s when conferences were smaller and there were more of them

next season, winning the PAC or the Big 12 won't mean much.  Like winning the MAC or the Mountain West
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