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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #2226 on: April 12, 2025, 01:38:22 AM »
Doha looks much like Dubai.  

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #2227 on: April 12, 2025, 06:58:44 AM »
A Qatari paid for our lunch.  I then left a $20 tip.  

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #2228 on: April 13, 2025, 09:16:20 AM »
In a plane high over Canada with internet.  Pretty neat.  But this is wearing, been flying for 20 hours and four to go, well only 3.  Fifteen hours in a plane.  The first flight was on Fly Dubai, which I would rename Don’t Fly Dubai.  Leg room was awful.  

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« Reply #2229 on: April 13, 2025, 09:35:03 AM »
too wearing for me
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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #2230 on: April 13, 2025, 10:22:30 AM »
Yeah, I question my choices.  Two hours to go then immigration.  Flight has been ok.  So far.  Even sitting in main cabin Delta.  All three flights were full.  


Had a long bus ride in Dubai terminal.  Makes me appreciate ATL.  Even AMS was spread out but no buses.   

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #2231 on: April 13, 2025, 10:24:07 AM »
Both cruises were full. I’ll have some comments later on ports of call.  29 days on board.  

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #2232 on: April 13, 2025, 11:16:42 AM »
Sitting in a hotel lobby in San Juan waiting for my ride to my ship to take me across the Atlantic 

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #2233 on: April 13, 2025, 11:27:39 AM »
What cruise lines did you guys use?
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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #2234 on: April 13, 2025, 12:04:58 PM »
 Norwegian.  

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« Reply #2235 on: April 13, 2025, 04:08:10 PM »
What cruise lines did you guys use?
Ncl.  36 days 3 different cruises going from San Juan and ending in Istanbul. Hitting the northern Mediterranean and eygpt in between. 

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #2236 on: April 13, 2025, 06:26:35 PM »
You outdid our 29.  

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #2237 on: April 14, 2025, 02:11:48 AM »
Some very broad impressions:

The major developed cities in Asia are "all the same", more or less, to me, Seoul, Taiwan cities, HK, Bangkok, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Doha.  The last three of course are very hot and "deserty".  But all have massive skylines on waterways, vast stretches of 30+ story apartment buildings, very very few "houses", large airports and seaports,  Not much in the way or large forested parks (that we saw).  

Several places we visited are threatened by potential military actions, Seoul, Taiwan, Straits of Hormuz, plausibly Mumbai.  Some places we visited or planned to in the past have been made now off limits by war.  It's hard for me to conceive of a real war where a place like Seoul comes under artillery attack, it would be ... brutal, or the two cities in Taiwan being assaulted.

The greatest contrast with cities in India we visited vs the above, is trash, and poverty.  In India, trash is everywhere, Mumbai downtown was better.  The plastic in the oceans comes from these countries like India.

I saw no gum on sidewalks in Singapore.  Ha.

Doha was surprisingly green, a lot of larger tracts of sod.  Of the three, it was my favorite to visit.

There weren't any places we both said "We'd love to come back.".  A few were in the "like to return" group, but the pain to get there is significant.

We were of course limited by the tours I selected, but had long bus rides in most, and walked about in most.  India is brutally humid and hot, even the locals were complaining as it was early April.  A thing we missed was having more local food options in places, my wife was pretty leary about trying things.  We had a great lunch in Seoul at a market, and an "OK" lunch in Goa, India, and some terrific fried chicken in Doha of all places.  As we entered that place, I noted three locals lounging having coffee, and the put my hand over my heart and said "Salaam alekhim".  Later they left, and we were told the younger of the three paid for our meal, he said "Welcome to our country".  I left a $20 tip for the workers.

These three Arab cities of course fabulously wealthy, clean, and safe.  Up to 90% of the population are "foreign workers".  It doesn't seem sustainable to me, but the workers face greater hardships in their home countries, places like Pakistan.

We had some interesting conversations with the crew on board the ship.  They mostly seem pretty motivated and happy, most told us they were reupping their contracts, and while they aren't paid much and work hard, it's worse where they are from (most off the PI).  We took a tour of the "innards" of the ship that was pretty interesting.  This is the oldest ship in their fleet (NCL) and smallest and about to be sold as NCL brings on four "megaships".  By smallest, I mean 1930 passengers and about a thousand crew.  It was updated in 2024 and was in good shape visually.  We watched a video about the new ships and they will be ... different.

There are three levels of dining on board, the "Garden Cafe", which is buffet style, and decent, two large sit down and order restaurants, and four "premium" restaurants, one of which is "French".  The service at the latter is quite good, we got comped on a lot of stuff.  We had five "free" premium meals for each cruise (14 day followed by a 15 day).    We did not have the Unlimited Beverage Package which saves a LOT of money.  Most folks don't know you can drop that, it's about $75 per person per day.

The passengers were about half Asian, about a quarter European/Aussie/NZ, and a quarter American/Canadian.  There were a lot of Canadians on board that we met, they nearly all joked about the 51st state thing.




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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #2238 on: April 14, 2025, 02:19:21 AM »
The flights of course were pretty tough on us, I had paid for an upgrade to "premium" on AA Dallas to Seoul which helped a lot.  The plane from Doha to Dubai was awful, I could barely sit down, but a one hour flight at least.  Then we took a VERY VERY long bus ride at the airport, nearly 20 minutes, to get to the KLM flight connection to Amsterdam.  KLM is a very good carrier, and had one of the prettiest FAs I've seen on board in a while.  We were in Economy Comfort.  The AMS airport was confusing, we had several cruise passengers who were following me as they were on the same connecting flight to Atlanta.  That entailed another poorly marked bus ride but we all made it.  My wife was panicked initially because she didn't have the correct time.  

We were "in the back" on the Delta flight home but surprisingly I had OK leg room.  All three flights were fully booked, as was both cruises.  So, one hour flight Doha to Dubai, long layover, 8+ hour flight to AMS, then 8+ flight to ATL.  I got through customs as fast as my wife who has Global Entry in ATL and our luggage all showed up, we doubt it all would.  We started with two pieces and ended with three, we bought a decent suitcase in India for $37, it works fine.  

My wife went to sleep last evening before dark and I followed by woke up at 1 AM, so here I am, being productive.  

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #2239 on: April 14, 2025, 05:41:45 AM »
Some other broad observations about "The World":

1.  US "culture" is pervasive, really.  We saw KFCs and McDs, and 7-11s etc. everywhere (except Vietnam).
2.  Another sign of this, nearly every sign of note was bilingual with English.  Everywhere.  Even in Arabia.  Street signs, commercial signs, everything.  
3.  Another sign, western style dress is pervasive.  The partial exception was Qatar where a fair number of locals wore "Arab style dress".  Women were in black, usually veiled, sometimes completely except eyes.  In India, Thailand, Taiwan, HK, 99% are in western attire.
4.  Toyota really dominates the car industry in Asia.  
5.  The immigration prodecures in India are ... difficult.  We often had to wait in long lines to have proof of visa scanned and then have backpacks scanned though the person reading the scanners often was not paying any attention.  I walked through any number of magnetometers that went off and nobody said anything or checked me in India.  We had four stops in India, same thing in each one.  They checked a paper that had QR codes on it, we didn't have passports there.
6.  The cruise ship, or country, will often take our passports from us, not something all that wonderful, but it works.
7.  Most people "out there" are pretty nice and considerate, a few are oblivious to their surroundings.  These will block obvious choke  points in airports or busses for no reason.  Some folks in a buffet line will just stand there looking for "hours" as if the items are going to change, not letting others have access.
8.  These huges cities are, well, huge.  I guess you get used to it, many have 30+ story apartment buildings for miles, all looking the same.
9. The employees in the travel industry have to put up with ... "us", often it's not fun, at all.
10.  Too many Americans are simply fat, to put it bluntly, and unable to get around very well.  On many tours clearly marked "not for wheelchaired folks", we had fat wheelchaired folks holding everything up.  Some could walk, a bit, they just wanted to ride.



 

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