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Cincydawg · « **Reply #1498 on:** July 22, 2024, 02:23:42 PM »

The rock and country concerts today seem to me to be half SHOW and half MUSIC, maybe. I have not attended one in ... well, a long time.

We have symphony season tickets, the "show" part is negligible there of course, a pianist like Lang Lang will ham it up, which is OK with me, my wife doesn't care for it.

Lang Lang performing Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No.1 at National Memorial Day Concert (youtube.com)
Lang Lang performing Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No.1 at National Memorial Day Concert (youtube.com)

Lang Lang - Grieg Piano Concerto in A minor, Op. 16 (youtube.com)

The last one is a favorite of mine. I remain amazed that professional musicians can perform such pieces with very little practice together.

utee94 · « **Reply #1499 on:** July 22, 2024, 02:28:53 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on July 22, 2024, 02:23:42 PM

The rock and country concerts today seem to me to be half SHOW and half MUSIC, maybe. I have not attended one in ... well, a long time.

We have symphony season tickets, the "show" part is negligible there of course, a pianist like Lang Lang will ham it up, which is OK with me, my wife doesn't care for it.

Lang Lang performing Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No.1 at National Memorial Day Concert (youtube.com)
Lang Lang performing Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No.1 at National Memorial Day Concert (youtube.com)

Lang Lang - Grieg Piano Concerto in A minor, Op. 16 (youtube.com)

The last one is a favorite of mine. I remain amazed that professional musicians can perform such pieces with very little practice together.

I'm not sure what this means. KISS has been around for 50 years and their shows have always been at least half "show" and half music. Tons of other acts that go back that far or even further, are the same. I don't view this as something new.

I love George Strait's music but his live shows are about the worst thing I've ever experienced. He sits on a stool and plays his guitar and the backup band plays behind him and it's all note-for-note identical to what you hear on his albums. Which is fine, of course, but since I already have the album, why would I need to see the live performance? I've seen him live twice, both times because the girl I was dating at the time really wanted to see him.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1500 on:** July 22, 2024, 02:30:47 PM »

I didn't mean to imply this is a new thing, I know it's been around for decades. But, back in my day, a lot of rock groups just played their gig without a lot of effects.

utee94 · « **Reply #1501 on:** July 22, 2024, 02:32:21 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on July 22, 2024, 02:30:47 PM

I didn't mean to imply this is a new thing, I know it's been around for decades. But, back in my day, a lot of rock groups just played their gig without a lot of effects.

Elvis danced around to entertain the ladies, he could have played the music just fine without doing so.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1502 on:** July 22, 2024, 02:35:44 PM »

He learned those moves from Forrest Gump.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1503 on:** July 22, 2024, 02:38:37 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on July 22, 2024, 02:23:42 PM

Lang Lang - Grieg Piano Concerto in A minor, Op. 16 (youtube.com)

The last one is a favorite of mine.

I had this playing in background, and the audience applauded after the first movement, my wife gets very upset when the crowd does this. She starts cursing, in French.

Merde.

Sometimes I start to applaud by moving my hands and she will grab my arm. Then she laughs. I hate when people laugh between movements.

utee94 · « **Reply #1504 on:** July 22, 2024, 02:54:25 PM »

When performing symphonic/orchestral music, it never bothered me when people clapped in between movements. I don't expect the entire audience to be familiar with the subtleties of every single piece.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #1505 on:** July 22, 2024, 02:55:04 PM »

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #1506 on:** July 22, 2024, 04:25:13 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on July 22, 2024, 02:28:53 PM

I love George Strait's music but his live shows are about the worst thing I've ever experienced. He sits on a stool and plays his guitar and the backup band plays behind him and it's all note-for-note identical to what you hear on his albums. Which is fine, of course, but since I already have the album, why would I need to see the live performance? I've seen him live twice, both times because the girl I was dating at the time really wanted to see him.

I've seen him once, because the girl I was planning to marry, and now am married to, really wanted to see him [again].

Personally I don't mind when an artist sounds like they do on their album. I saw Rush once and they were so amazingly precise and technical that it could have been their album version and nobody would have been able to tell. I credit that to their proficience as musicians. I also am really impressed when an artist sounds better live than their album version. That tells you they're the real deal.

What bothers me is when an artist sounds worse than they do on the album. It makes you feel like you've been cheated as a fan and they're only as popular as they are because they had a good producer.

Quote from: Cincydawg on July 22, 2024, 02:23:42 PM

The rock and country concerts today seem to me to be half SHOW and half MUSIC, maybe.

Well it's like going to a football game [which I do] or a political rally [which I do not]. There's an area of it that is about the show and communal experience. There's a different energy in a large crowd like that. The artists can feed into and then intensify that energy.

That's what I thought I'd be getting with Kenny Chesney. He's sorta the Jimmy Buffett of country. His show is supposed to be an experience, a party. Maybe it just wasn't my kind of party, I guess...

utee94 · « **Reply #1507 on:** July 22, 2024, 04:37:51 PM »

Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on July 22, 2024, 04:25:13 PM

I've seen him once, because the girl I was planning to marry, and now am married to, really wanted to see him [again].

Personally I don't mind when an artist sounds like they do on their album. I saw Rush once and they were so amazingly precise and technical that it could have been their album version and nobody would have been able to tell. I credit that to their proficience as musicians. I also am really impressed when an artist sounds better live than their album version. That tells you they're the real deal.

What bothers me is when an artist sounds worse than they do on the album. It makes you feel like you've been cheated as a fan and they're only as popular as they are because they had a good producer.

Well it's like going to a football game [which I do] or a political rally [which I do not]. There's an area of it that is about the show and communal experience. There's a different energy in a large crowd like that. The artists can feed into and then intensify that energy.

That's what I thought I'd be getting with Kenny Chesney. He's sorta the Jimmy Buffett of country. His show is supposed to be an experience, a party. Maybe it just wasn't my kind of party, I guess...

This isn't really what I'm talking about. I've seen Rush live on three different occasions, and while I agree that they're a really tight combo that sounds as good live as they do in the studio, the live renditions of the songs themselves have long extended solos and super-long bridge sequences that are not part of the recorded studio version. In other words, they've added to and extended the song, to provide the concert audience an experience that they haven't already heard in the recorded version.

George Strait, on the other hand, plays back every song live, pretty much exactly as it was recorded, note-for-note. There is nothing additional an audience member can experience in the live concert, that wasn't exactly as it was in the studio version.

And still, I love George Strait, I really do. I just don't see any purpose at all in going to his concerts.

(unless you're trying to get laid, of course. That is a worthwhile purpose)

847badgerfan · « **Reply #1508 on:** July 22, 2024, 04:38:49 PM »

I saw Rush 28 times in total, starting in 1979 at Comiskey Park. Yeah, I know...

They were absolutely fantastic, even if Geddy could no longer get up on the high notes as he aged.

GopherRock · « **Reply #1509 on:** July 22, 2024, 04:44:34 PM »

The last couple of times Kenny Chesney played a show here in MSP, it seems that the minimum BAC for admission is well north of the legal limit. One has to be shitfaced to put up with him.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #1510 on:** July 22, 2024, 05:08:38 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on July 22, 2024, 04:37:51 PM

And still, I love George Strait, I really do. I just don't see any purpose at all in going to his concerts.

(unless you're trying to get laid, of course. That is a worthwhile purpose)

Well, the purpose was successful. Not that I thought it was in doubt at that point in the relationship of course

Quote from: 847badgerfan on July 22, 2024, 04:38:49 PM

I saw Rush 28 times in total, starting in 1979 at Comiskey Park. Yeah, I know...

They were absolutely fantastic, even if Geddy could no longer get up on the high notes as he aged.

Did you see them at Tinley Park in the late 90s? Right after Test for Echo came out? If so, we were at the same concert...

Quote from: GopherRock on July 22, 2024, 04:44:34 PM

The last couple of times Kenny Chesney played a show here in MSP, it seems that the minimum BAC for admission is well north of the legal limit. One has to be shitfaced to put up with him.

We saw some people get tossed. Including some jackasses who were in the row right behind us. Based on their behavior prior to getting ejected, I was not surprised or unhappy to see them go. Especially when one of them (shortly before being tossed) bumped into me stepped on my new sneaks... But I wasn't worried they were going to start some stuff. Considering that "bumping into me" is basically "bumping off of me" because I didn't move an inch...

Funny thing... One of the guys in our row ended up buying a couple beers and had one too many (not that HE'd consumed one too many, he bought one too many) during ZBB. Saw my very tall son in a cowboy hat and tried to hand it to him. My son obviously deferred and he looked at me and I yelled over the music, "He's 16!!!" So he apologized and gave me the beer instead. Can't complain about that!

He was wearing a Texas Longhorns hat so once ZBB was done I asked him to sell my son on UT, as that's one of the schools he's interested in. All he could talk about was football, so I'm guessing he wasn't an alum lol...

utee94 · « **Reply #1511 on:** July 22, 2024, 05:18:56 PM »

Ha! Until the very end of last season, if I were trying to sell someone on UT, I probably wouldn't even mention the football team.

If your son has any questions though, feel free to reach out.

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