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Topic: Retirement / What am I working for?

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MikeDeTiger

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Re: Retirement / What am I working for?
« Reply #616 on: June 16, 2026, 11:45:33 AM »
Sometimes inertia is enough to keep a company going.  It might not be as efficient as it could be, but just the momentum behind it, can keep it profitable and operating.

State and Federal funds keep my company going.  We're completely immune to the natural market forces of supply and demand, kind of like the Musk companies Brad was talking about on another thread.  

Taxpayer dollars and student loans can get binned under "inertia," I suppose.  

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Re: Retirement / What am I working for?
« Reply #617 on: June 17, 2026, 08:27:54 AM »
Inertia and market "control".  We had enough of the latter to get favorable siting in stores.  I think our marketing department was actually pretty savvy with some exceptions.  It was known as a place to be if you had a "Stanford" MBA, even if you left after 4-5 years, and they often did leave, it was up or out.

I had occasion to work with them some, some of them were quite smart.  And there was a "System" for managing specific products, a little guy didn't  have much chance of competing.  I still prefer two of our products, but the rest I mostly buy whatever is on sale.  I like Dawn and Charmin.  The Costco brand paper towel is fine with me.  Laundry detergent seems all to be about the same among better brands.  Shampoo?  Meh.  I use some 3 in 1 cheap brand that does everything supposedly.

I very rarely think about work today unless something brings it up, which is a good thing.  It's a closed chapter in my history except for a book I dabble with at times.

I do enjoy writing, but the urge comes and goes.  Then we start traveling, which is today in fact.

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Re: Retirement / What am I working for?
« Reply #618 on: July 09, 2026, 11:08:32 AM »
My Dad is taking a well-deserved and overdue summer vacation to Poland. He is visiting numerous cousins on his mother’s side, who he’s seeing in person, in their same farming villages where he can speak his native language, for the first time since the 1970s before leaving Poland for good. In photos he messages us brothers (his sons), he appears unusually relaxed, which plays into my prediction that he’ll return home, and to his job with Maricopa County, wishing he’d started visiting Poland years ago, beginning after my Mom passed away in 2013.

Instead, he’s kept himself too tied up with work to take lengthier overseas trips, and now, still working at 75 years, with zero financial need to continue working, I’m convinced that he works until he passes away one day. He says “work keeps me going” but, as with my late Mom’s addiction to Percocet, I suspect work will be the drug that keeps him alive until it does him in at the end. 

I cannot relate to why anybody would want to keep working when they no longer need to. If it’s about maintaining a personal identity, there are many ways outside of work to build identity. If Covid lockdowns did me any good, it was realizing how fully capable I am to develop a sense of productivity/accomplishment on my own. When my employer sidelined their workforce for about four months and left us to ourselves through the summer of 2020, the routine I created for myself tapped into a sense of productivity/accomplishment that I thought I’d otherwise lose during months without work or a routine that included gyms (closed) or meeting with friends.

Over the past decade, we’ve addressed with our Dad whether he’ll ever retire, and it’s mostly a directionless discussion. But a few months ago, when I was telling him about the sudden passing of an older coworker who retired a few years ago, my Dad’s response gave me an idea of why he continues to work. True or not, he responded by saying “most men die within a few years after they retire.” It’s a disquieting view into his reasoning: he’s afraid that once he stops working it’ll speed up the clock on the inevitable. The inevitable comes for all of us, yes, but I find his approach slightly tragic.


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« Reply #619 on: July 09, 2026, 11:28:30 AM »
My dad died on the job at 70 and was a lifelong workaholic.
When the US went away from nuclear, he bought a small business and he'd work 20 hour days to keep it going.
When we went back towards nuclear, my brother and I told him he doesn't have to work like that.  Get a 'normal' job and have some leisure time.
He sold the business.
Wound up with a bass boat, so that's some evidence of taking it a little easier.
But I think work ethic and out-efforting people and problems were instilled at him by his father, a farmer.
All the times he'd talk to me when I messed up, the phrase "put in the effort" was always there.

I think for some, their self-worth comes from working hard.  Without something to effort at, they can't look in the mirror.
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