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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #980 on: March 22, 2024, 07:15:31 PM »

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #981 on: March 22, 2024, 09:30:27 PM »

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #982 on: March 22, 2024, 10:38:53 PM »


Mall by hotel. About to head out. 

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« Reply #983 on: March 22, 2024, 10:43:24 PM »

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #984 on: March 23, 2024, 06:27:21 PM »
At DFW.  Got through immigration ok. 2 hour flight left after 11 hr 47 min flt. Feel ok 

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #985 on: March 23, 2024, 07:12:08 PM »
Seoul is a huge modern city that seems very prosperous and alive.  The cars are like ours mostly, no trucks few suvs. There are 15-40 story apartment buildings everywhere, all in close proximity to North Korea.  Very clean, awful traffic, young residents.  I was impressed 

We signed up for a 30 day cruise next March, Seoul to Dubai. Should be a hoot.

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #986 on: March 24, 2024, 08:19:08 AM »
Back home, not incredibly tired.  We were delayed coming out of DFW an hour for something.  I wasn't impressed with AA as an airline, I guess they are "OK".  I used points to get into their lounge at DFW.  Meh.  I paid to upgrade us to Premium Economy" out of Seoul which was "OK".  It was a lot of "premium" and a lot of "economy" both.

We had no hitches on the trip otherwise.  My wife liked Tokyo because of the tour we had there, I thought Seoul was vastly more impressive and clean and prosperous.  We both noticed that some Koreans talk really loud in public, Japanese don't at all.  The cars in Japan are mostly tiny boxes, in Seoul they look pretty much like here.  I have a ton of photos of course, will probably make another photo book (whch we look at once usually).

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« Reply #987 on: March 24, 2024, 08:59:58 AM »
I'll post a few pics later, need to download them.  The DMZ is definitely "weird" the more I think about it.  The South tried to make some small steps to reunification a decade or more back, so they built an entire factory just into DPRK, you could see it from our viewing site.  They had about 500 South Koreans go there for work and several thousand from the North providing cheap labor.  The South provided electricity and water.  It's a pretty large plant, now defunct of course.  The power lines were cut.

The bus drop off area where you get tickets is like a tourist spot with probably 80 tour buses and the aforementioned small amusement park, restaurants, gift shops, etc.  You wait there over an hour while your guide gets tickets (he takes your passport).  Then your reboard the bus and transit several pretty serious looking check points.  ROK MPs come on the bus and check everyone's passport several times.  There is razor wire everywhere and the fences are marked with land mine warning signs.

We toured a cave built by the North a few years back, that was back breaking for me.  Then the bus toils up a hill to an observation post with fence lines and razor wire but access for tourists where you can see into the north and the actual DMZ.  I didn't notice a heavy military presence, mostly observation points, radar, and some United Nations Command folks with Hummers.  If the North attacked, I think they'd punch through quickly up there, the response would come from further south, or is hidden effectively.

All this is about a one hour drive north from Seoul, and quite a few large apartment buildings are closer than that.  The guide said land got cheaper as you go north.  No kidding.  The South built a four lane freeway that runs parallel to the DMZ.  There isn't much traffic on it (!).  South of the actual DMZ is a zone reserved for the military though there are some villages and farms inside it (where we had lunch).  Inside the DMZ is "nothing", basically.  It's a bout a 3 mile wide strip that is "demilitarized".  On the southern side one can see a paved road and fence line, nothing obviously much deterrent to tanks.

The freeway bridges have explosive charges built into them, if something happened the bridges would be dropped.  The area is hilly, but with a good bit of flat land suitable for armor, and some very good highways in the south.  I know the 2nd Infantry Division is now based south of Seoul.  

I was impressed with the RoK.  If that country were united, I think they'd be a significant world player economically, and soon, akin to Germany.  They built an impressive country from ruins in fairly short order.  Japan, to me, seemed tired in comparison.

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #988 on: March 24, 2024, 09:18:55 AM »
Do you recommend a trip to Korea? We've thought about it quite a bit.

What cites in Japan stood out?
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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #989 on: March 24, 2024, 09:35:20 AM »
We only saw Jeju and Seoul, but I liked both.  I think Seoul was worth the trip.  I'd like to see more of the south.  The Conrad Seoul is quite the place, a bit pricey (duh).

We did not take the train to Kyoto, that probably was a miss for us, folks said it was worthwhile (from Kobe).  As for what stood out in Japan, well, for me, not really much.  The tour we had in Tokyo was quite well done, 8 hours, a lot of walking, one guide, and 6-7 trips in the subway or JR line.  I feel like we had a decent experience of it for a large city.  My wife really liked Tokyo, I was less impressed.  (The Conrad Tokyo is also nice, duh).  

For me, I'd like to go back to Korea but not Japan especially, except maybe to see the north and more of the rural areas.  Our trip to see Mt. Fuji was a bust due to weather.  It was rainy and cold and our tour guide was not good.  Nagasaki/Kobe/Osaka/Tokyo to me all looked pretty much the same.  

I've always wanted to visit Japan, so we did, I don't have strong memories of the place good or bad really.  

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« Reply #990 on: March 24, 2024, 09:40:22 AM »
This is intriguing (depending what China is up to).

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Re: Travels and Impressions
« Reply #991 on: March 24, 2024, 09:53:40 AM »

ThuSeoul (Incheon), South Korea---7:00 PM0
FriJeju, South Korea12:00 PM9:00 PM0
SatAt Sea------0
SunIshigaki, Japan7:00 AM7:00 PM0
MonTaipei (Keelung), Taiwan7:00 AM6:00 PM0
TueKaohsiung, Taiwan8:00 AM4:00 PM0
WedHong Kong, China11:30 AMOvernight0
ThuHong Kong, China---6:00 PM0
FriAt Sea------0
SatNha Trang, Vietnam7:00 AM3:00 PM0
SunHo Chi Minh City (Phu My), Vietnam7:00 AM5:00 PM0
MonAt Sea------0
TueBangkok (Laem Chabang), Thailand6:00 AMOvernight0
WedBangkok (Laem Chabang), Thailand---8:00 PM0
ThuKo Samui, Thailand10:00 AM6:00 PM0
FriAt Sea------0
SatSingapore, Singapore (Flight Departure)7:00 AM---0

That is similar to our cruise.  We stay on board after Singapore.



[th]Day[/th]
[th]Land Tours And Cruise Ports[/th]
[th]Arrive[/th]
[th]Depart[/th]
[th]Booked[/th]
SatSingapore, Singapore---5:00 PM0
SunKuala Lumpur (Port Klang), Malaysia7:00 AM4:00 PM0
MonPhuket, Thailand11:00 AM6:00 PM0
TueAt Sea------0
WedAt Sea------0
ThuColombo, Sri Lanka9:00 AM4:00 PM0
FriCochin, India10:30 AM6:30 PM0
SatMangalore, India7:00 AM6:00 PM0
SunGoa (Mormugao), India7:00 AM4:00 PM0
MonMumbai, India7:00 AM5:00 PM0
TueAt Sea------0
WedAt Sea------0
ThuAbu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates10:30 AM9:00 PM0
FriDubai, United Arab Emirates7:00 AM7:00 PM0
SatDoha, Qatar (Flight Departure)7:00 AM---

This ship is a bit smaller and doesn't have "Club Balcony Suites", just balcony only.  The cost including air is about $21 K.  Our propspective daughter in law is from HK and we're trying to get them to do the first leg with us.  I'lll probably spend a small fortune on excursions.





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« Reply #992 on: March 24, 2024, 09:56:13 AM »
Something again that mystifies me a bit, we were in first class from DFW to ATL and the seats had no video monitors. The safety brief had to be done by the flight attendants.  I whined about this on West Jet, I didn't expect it from a "major" (AA).

I have not been on any Delta flights in years that did not have video monitors even in coach.

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« Reply #993 on: March 24, 2024, 10:05:57 AM »
American did away with the monitors years ago. You can do everything and more with your phone or tablet.
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