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Topic: 100 RBs who had lots of carries and didn't stink

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bayareabadger

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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #364 on: April 08, 2020, 06:37:51 PM »
Clay was low-key overrated. 

He came in being considered so talented. He got a good bit out of it. Like he was modestly more successful than PJ Hill despite being a better back, but the gap between them was not as wide as the gap between their talent levels. 

Kid also couldn't keep in shape. 

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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #365 on: April 08, 2020, 06:42:27 PM »
Are you responding to my post about late pitches in triple-option offenses?  It seems like maybe for one season or two some scorers were splitting the rushing yards for a play with a late pitch between the QB and the HB.  I'm not sure about that.  I just remember either in the '72 or '73 season where reporters were making it very clear that the rushing yards on such plays all went to the guy who ended up with the ball.
I don't see any problem with a halfback pass.  It's a pass attempt.
If there is a problem, it might be one of insufficient historical data.
No, I was just sharing about how roles weren't so clearly defined back in the day.
I'd have to research those 72/73 seasons to understand what you're saying, or to see if it's evident.  I had never heard that before, though, so cool.
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #366 on: April 08, 2020, 06:48:27 PM »
Clay was low-key overrated. 
 He certainly looked the part thought he might hang around the league longer than one season.Like Allen Iverson he apparently didn't like to practice
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #367 on: April 08, 2020, 07:11:43 PM »
He certainly looked the part thought he might hang around the league longer than one season.Like Allen Iverson he apparently didn't like to practice
He was very good, not great. Had potential, but probably relied too much on his physical gifts. Word was he was always light upstairs. Only barely won admission to UW, as I recall--and many thought he wouldn't be able to cut it in the classroom. 

Bennett, Marek, and Calhoun all have arguments to be on a top-10 Badger back list instead of him. Bennett and Calhoun had more impactful single seasons. Marek did as much as Clay in his career, but on worse teams.

Clay and PJ Hill are the most "system" of the Badgers' so-called system backs.

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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #368 on: April 08, 2020, 07:13:01 PM »
He certainly looked the part thought he might hang around the league longer than one season.Like Allen Iverson he apparently didn't like to practice
He liked food and a good time and his ankles did not like him so chunky. 

Somewhere on the Facebook was a picture of him with a red shirt that had what looked like a Coca Cola logo on it. But under the word "enjoy" it said, well an anatomical word. The image always stuck with me. 

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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #369 on: April 08, 2020, 07:20:01 PM »
I guess I'll do the blurbs for each RB.  Counting backwards, from 100:
100.  Benny Snell, Jr.  Kentucky (2016-2018)
Kind of big, not fast, but fast enough.  Was UK's whole offense in 2018, when they had a random 10-3 great season.  He was one of those guys that you knew he was running the ball, but he still got yards.  Tough to bring down. 
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99. Tyrell Sutton, Northwestern (2005-2008)
Very good back, could catch the ball.  Best season was his FR year, but he never had 200 carries after that, must have had nagging injuries.  N'Western has more RBs on this list than one might think. 
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98.  P.J. Hill, Wisconsin (2006-2008)
Big-boy RB, split time (as told on this thread).  Biggest year was his FR year, too.  Just a big guy who was tough to bring down - many here have more to share about him than I do.  But as a big back, I liked him.  Any time a fat guy gets to tote the rock, it's good.
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97.  Leonard Fournette, LSU (2014-2016)
Super-talent that should be higher, but for injuries and leaving early.  He was fast-enough fast while being a grown-ass man physically.  Approached 2,000 yards his SO. season.  Didn't do well vs Bama, which seemed to derail his Heisman chances.  I don't remember that being a thing for other RBs, do you?
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96.  Saquon Barkley, Penn State (2015-2017)
Good career, don't get me wrong, but a better prospect than all-time college great.  Was fast for a guy his weight, and good at catching the ball.  I think his ability exceeded his production (while acknowledging the production was really good).
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95.  Raymond Priester, Clemson (1994-1997)
Another bigger back, not real fast.  He was definitely a better-production-than-highlight-reel kind of guy.  Very similar to Snell, come to think of it.  Wore 27, if that helps anyone remember him. 
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94.  Anthony Dixon, Miss State (2006-2009)
Common theme - bigger back, stocky.  Never had 300+ carries in a season, but had over 900 for his career.  Slow, but super-tough to bring down.  Very quietly started approaching some all-time SEC records, due to his volume.  Not a big name at a minor program just chugging away for 4 years.
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93.  Emmitt Smith, Florida (1987-1989)
Everyone knows Emmitt.  Just as the worry was when he was drafted, thought to be too small, too slow.  But left as Florida's all-time leading rusher (since broken) in only 3 years.  Similar to Fournette in that he "should" be higher up the list aside from a year with injuries and leaving a year early.  Was a one-man-gang on the Gators' offense.
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92.  Jacquizz Rodgers, Oregon State (2008-2010)
Mighty-mite back - short, but strong.  Starred with is brother (twin?) for the Beavs.  Starred in a big upset of USC, I believe.  Could catch the ball out of the backfield, as well.  Used his lack of height to get lost in the scrum and pop out the other side.
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91.  Thomas Jones, Virginia (1996-1999)
Made people forget about Tiki Barber in UVA.  Started slowly, but had a big SR season.  Much like Barber, was fast, but tough -much more agile than most of the others in this part of the list. 
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #370 on: April 08, 2020, 07:58:53 PM »
90.  Steve Slaton, West Virginia (2005-2007)
Slippery-fast option RB, paring with Pat White at QB, running RichRod's spread option.  Finished 4th for the Heisman in a big SO campaign, averaging 7 ypc.  His other years were productive, but not spectacular.  Big-time TD threat and could catch the ball.  When WV had White, Slaton, and Devine, it almost wasn't fair.
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89.  Chris Barclay, Wake Forest (2002-2005)
I've never heard of this guy.  Was the main RB for some bad WF teams under Jim Grobe.  Had three 1,000 yard seasons, but no really big seasons.  Scored 40 TDs in his career - just a guy on a bad team who churned out yards for 4 years, like Dixon at MSU.
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88. Charles Alexander, LSU (1975-1978)
Earliest player on our list so far, playing before my time.  His name pops up, over and over, though, in the SEC annuals.  Had a big JR season, but got more Heisman love (5th) his SR year.  I feel like that happened a lot back then - voters giving credit a year after it was due.  Had to look him up - kind of tall, not skinny - big strider, one-cut kind of RB.  Not any wiggle to him at all.
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87.  Napoleon Kaufman, Washington (1991-1994)
Maybe our first scat-back on the list - slighter than Slaton.  Although with so many carries his last 2 seasons, he was hearty, too.  Three-time 1,000 yard rusher, but no giant seasons.  Was known for his speed.  Could catch the ball, but not a big threat out of the backfield.
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86.  Chris Polk, Washington (2008-2011)
I want to say that I mix up UW's last 3 main RBs from this past decade.  There's this guy, Sankey, and one other one - theyr'e all the same to me, I can't tell them apart.  They're all good athletes, but never seem to average big yards-per-carry.  They just get the bulk of the carries and produce in a workmanlike fashion.  Polk, like many in this area of the list, had three 1,000 years, with none standing out as WOW-special.  
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85.  Darrin Nelson, Stanford (1977-1981)
Now this guy does stand out - as a pass-catcher out of the backfield.  He nearly had four 1,000 yard seasons, with none exceeding 1,100.  But he caught 50 passes a season for all 4 years on the Farm.  Not a lot of TDs, but good ypc averages and a major receiving threat got him here.
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84.  Steve Owens, Oklahoma (1967-1969)
Our first Heisman winner on the list, Owens was extremely consistent.  OU just about ran him into the ground, as he averaged over 30 carries/game for his whole career.  He won the Heisman in '69, while having the exact same season as he had in '68.  I guess O.J. wasn't in the way anymore, lol.  Owens was going to get his 4.3 yards every time and you were going to have to work to get him down.
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83.  Mike Voight, North Carolina (1973-1976)
Here's the second guy I've never heard of, so far.  Three 1,00 yard seasons (stop me if you've heard that before), 40 career rushing TDs.  Played in the mid-70s in the ACC, so it wasn't exactly elite competition.  
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82.  Robert Lavette, Georgia Tech (1981-1984)
No idea.  Looking him up, he's still the Jackets' all-time leading rusher.  Was productive all 4 years, and had 19 TDs his SO season.  Never averaged 5 ypc, though.
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81. Ahman Green, Nebraska (1995-1997)
I think we all remember this guy.  Option I-back for 2 NC Husker teams.  Averaged the same ypc as Lawrence Phillips did in his big year.  Big year as the main man in '97, including 22 TDs.  Very fast, very strong.  He'd be higher, but he left after 3 years.
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #371 on: April 08, 2020, 08:29:08 PM »
No, I was just sharing about how roles weren't so clearly defined back in the day.
I'd have to research those 72/73 seasons to understand what you're saying, or to see if it's evident.  I had never heard that before, though, so cool.
If you do that, start with the '71 season.
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« Reply #372 on: April 08, 2020, 08:30:42 PM »
He liked food and a good time and his ankles did not like him so chunky.

Somewhere on the Facebook was a picture of him with a red shirt that had what looked like a Coca Cola logo on it. But under the word "enjoy" it said, well an anatomical word. The image always stuck with me.
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #373 on: April 08, 2020, 09:23:16 PM »
81. Ahman Green, Nebraska (1995-1997)

80 backs better than Ahman?  Impressive
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #374 on: April 08, 2020, 09:39:53 PM »
81. Ahman Green, Nebraska (1995-1997)

80 backs better than Ahman?  Impressive
Yeah, and over 100 better than Barry Sanders....
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« Reply #375 on: April 08, 2020, 10:12:31 PM »
I thought Ahmad, being from Omaha, would have stayed for his senior season to break all the career records, but he surprised me
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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #376 on: April 08, 2020, 10:41:23 PM »
So, simple question.  You are a coach about to play Alabama or Clemson for the NC and you can have ANY running back from any team from any year (aside from your opponent).

Who do you pick?

You obviously have a very good team, but you are playing another very good team.

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Re: Top 100 RBs of All-Time
« Reply #377 on: April 08, 2020, 10:53:12 PM »
that's a simple question?

any of the top 5 backs should REALLY help your cause here

but, If I'm playing Bama I'd pick a larger back to go against those NFL sized D-linemen and LBs

Earl Campbell, Bo Jackson, Herchel, Jim Brown, 
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