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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: Tide vs BearKitties
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2021, 05:58:43 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on December 31, 2021, 05:27:44 PM
it's not even that they pull 5* dudes off the bench. it's their hit-rate in developing these 5*'s. I've seen lotta 5* busts at lot of schools. Which is why I think the rankings are fun to look at, but not worth much.

Saban is the best coach who has ever done it and it's because he develops talent like crazy. If a kid goes to Bama, he's going to get developed. They have very very very few "busts".
Is this quantifiable?

You can't just point to how many successful 5* they have, you'd have to quantify what percentage of 5* actually produce.

Then you have to consider the effect of surrounding your 5* recruits with a bunch of other stars, such that they're not the entire focus of the opposing team.

I.e. look at Karlaftis this year. Ho-hum statistical season because he was the only guy on that defense that the offense had to account for. Obviously not a "bust" of course, but his numbers were way worse than they'd be with a better supporting cast.
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Re: Tide vs BearKitties
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2021, 05:59:20 PM »
A score here and someone hits Young  in the mouth and we have a 4 quarter football game.














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Re: Tide vs BearKitties
« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2021, 06:01:07 PM »
But a Cinci 3 and out.
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Re: Tide vs BearKitties
« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2021, 06:01:34 PM »
The time of day when many women of the world begin losing their minds trying to get the hubby's attention to GET Ready!     Woo hoo,  NYE playoffs!
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Re: Tide vs BearKitties
« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2021, 06:36:25 PM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on December 31, 2021, 05:10:20 PM
Yawn. This take is dumb.
It's the worst Bama rushing attack in 15 years.  Your yawn at my take is lazy.  Wake up!
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Re: Tide vs BearKitties
« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2021, 06:37:18 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 31, 2021, 06:36:25 PM
It's the worst Bama rushing attack in 15 years.  Your yawn at my take is lazy.  Wake up!
I though Bama was going to rumble by 50? What happened? 
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Re: Tide vs BearKitties
« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2021, 06:37:27 PM »
The hate and vitriol for the SEC just tells you all you need to know.  The conference has officially achieved "Duke basketball" status as being hated for merely being great.  
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Re: Tide vs BearKitties
« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2021, 06:37:44 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on December 31, 2021, 06:37:18 PM
I though Bama was going to rumble by 50? What happened?
Who said that?

I'm fucking tired of this 7 year old-level of trolling.  They're covering the spread, sorry the blowout isn't as much as you'd like.

Also, this isn't even Alabama on all cylinders.  They ran a mix of plays and realized, "oh shit, we can run at will?!?" and simply played risk-free football.  Just as I said before, Saban's 2011-style way of holding a child at bay with a hand on their head where they can't reach you to hit you.  It's not excitinng, but it works if you're that much talented than your opponent.
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Re: Tide vs BearKitties
« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2021, 06:38:52 PM »
Nick Saban with a month to prepare is not fair. He's and 0 with with a month to prepare for a team. Dude is the best coach in the game by a mile it's crazy. Kinda nuts to me he didn't really work as an NFL coach. His football IQ is every bit as good as Belichik, who he learned a ton from and styled his coaching system after.
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Re: Tide vs BearKitties
« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2021, 06:39:25 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 31, 2021, 06:37:44 PM
Who said that?
You, many, many times. This was supposed to be an utter mismatch the likes of which we haven't seen in college football. But clearly it's not. What happened?
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Re: Tide vs BearKitties
« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2021, 06:40:16 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 31, 2021, 06:37:27 PM
The hate and vitriol for the SEC just tells you all you need to know.  The conference has officially achieved "Duke basketball" status as being hated for merely being great. 
the SEC isn't great. Alabama is great. I think everyone is tired of Alabama. Just like everyone in the NFL was tired of the Patriots.

Example right here- dudes team sucks ass, SEC was 1-5 in bowls before today, and this loser is nut-riding King Gump's domination of everyone.

Nick Saban with a month to prepare is just not fair.
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Re: Tide vs BearKitties
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2021, 06:41:30 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on December 31, 2021, 05:58:43 PM
Is this quantifiable?

You can't just point to how many successful 5* they have, you'd have to quantify what percentage of 5* actually produce.

Then you have to consider the effect of surrounding your 5* recruits with a bunch of other stars, such that they're not the entire focus of the opposing team.

I.e. look at Karlaftis this year. Ho-hum statistical season because he was the only guy on that defense that the offense had to account for. Obviously not a "bust" of course, but his numbers were way worse than they'd be with a better supporting cast.
yes, it's very quantifiable. Look at how many 5* kids they take and of those how many are either mediocre players or just complete busts and who just stink. It's extremely small. This is unusual relative to all other 5*'s that go to other schools. 

edit: also, Karlaftis is an All-Conference player and is being projected as a top 10 NFL Draft pick...so not sure why you're even bringing him up, he doesn't apply to this conversation.
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Re: Tide vs BearKitties
« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2021, 06:45:00 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 31, 2021, 06:37:27 PM
The hate and vitriol for the SEC just tells you all you need to know.  The conference has officially achieved "Duke basketball" status as being hated for merely being great. 
Florida football and Georgia Tech basketball, living large
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Re: Tide vs BearKitties
« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2021, 06:45:07 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on December 31, 2021, 06:39:25 PM
You, many, many times. This was supposed to be an utter mismatch the likes of which we haven't seen in college football. But clearly it's not. What happened?
It's not a mismatch?

Alabama abandoned it's usual offense because their mediocre RB is having the best game of his career.  Cincinnati has 6 points.  

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