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Topic: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2023, 03:14:47 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 13, 2023, 08:12:09 AM
Nope.
I ask WHY, and this is what I get.
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Re: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2023, 03:17:07 PM »
Wow, WOW.  I say the word "regulation," and everyone starts spouting off about the government.
It doesn't have to be the government.  
Sheesh.
It can be ANY entity as long as it has buy-in from the conferences and schools.  
Calm down, guys.  The big, bad government doesn't own the word "regulation."
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Re: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2023, 04:32:14 PM »
Imagine if it were to be regulated by a Fro type character, where the SEC would get all 12 of the playoff spots. 
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Re: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2023, 04:53:33 PM »
The caricature of me you have in your mind sounds awful, but he's living there rent-free.
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Re: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4
« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2023, 08:11:27 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 12, 2023, 11:38:13 AM
That's a lot to take in. Great post.

What would it look like today? Probably similar to what it looked like then. I think the Eastern Indies would have formed a conference if they could foresee what was coming. Some of them probably REALLY regret not doing so when JoePa tried.

PSU, Pitt, Cuse, BC, WVU, USCe, FSU, Miami, VT for sure.

Rutgers? Would Maryland jump at a conference like that? NC State?
Other possibilities from 1980 independents include Louisville, and Georgia Tech which are now in the ACC. We might have had a slightly different landscape today, but we probably would have had consolidation, and schools jumping conferences. The point of the original post was that the TV money was a tack-on source of revenue then, whereas now it is the main source of revenue for the SEC and Big Ten.
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Re: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4
« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2023, 11:09:53 PM »
Having so many independents back in the day was really useful for quality scheduling.  You want big-time OOC games, that's the environment to have them.
It'd be cool to go back to that and maybe have each conference sponsor a group of independents in their region to split money with.  
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Re: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2023, 07:46:05 AM »
We could put the Egg Lobby in charge ....

... instead of the NCAA (which everyone seems to hate).  Any such body would be hated in such a field, it's inherent.

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Re: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2023, 08:47:00 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 13, 2023, 01:51:28 PM
So I'm not picking this apart, I'm trying to understand what you're getting at-- are you suggesting that Texas would have been a big enough brand that the B1G never would have wanted or needed to later pursue Nebraska, Maryland, Rutgers, UCLA, USC, Oregon, and Washington? 

I'm as big a Texas homer as you'll find but I can't really believe that.

And if Texas joins the B1G in 1991, then I still see the SEC responding, probably with Texas A&M rather than Arkansas, or perhaps both.  And the escalation dance continues.
I think things would look a whole lot different.

The Big Ten did not pursue any of those schools.

Except maybe Rutgers, because Rutgers would never think the Big Ten would have any interest.
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Re: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2023, 08:48:44 AM »
Everybody wants to be in one of two conferences except maybe ND and the Academies.  If UNC/UVA could bolt with no issues, I think they would.
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Re: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2023, 09:06:57 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 14, 2023, 08:48:44 AM
Everybody wants to be in one of two conferences except maybe ND and the Academies.  If UNC/UVA could bolt with no issues, I think they would.
They do now. That was not always the case.
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Re: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2023, 09:17:09 AM »
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Re: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4
« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2023, 09:25:43 AM »
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Re: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4
« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2023, 09:27:55 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 14, 2023, 09:06:57 AM
They do now. That was not always the case.
Of course not, folks were pretty happy where they were even ten years ago.  The TV money has splurged.  The Pac messed up, the ACC tried to lock it down, the B12 picked up loose pieces.  At the moment, I can't think of a program that wouldn't jump at an invite to the Big Two other than the four mentioned.

The four premier programs left are in the ACC.  
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Re: The Power of a Small Incentive: Looking at Realignment over the Past 4
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2023, 10:39:38 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 13, 2023, 03:17:07 PM
It can be ANY entity as long as it has buy-in from the conferences and schools. 
So the fox will be guarding the henhouse, huh? 
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