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Topic: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football

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ELA

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Re: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football
« Reply #56 on: December 30, 2024, 03:59:21 PM »
Most would sign this manifesto
Our former CFO is a Kentucky alum/season ticket holder.  He's retired now, but I remember talking to him back in 2013ish, and he said he obviously preferred winning to losing, but it was hard to care when you brought in a new team every year.  And that was before that, that was just when the NBA went to the one and done to protect their owners from paying kids straight out of HS.

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Re: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football
« Reply #57 on: December 30, 2024, 04:08:34 PM »
might as well start paying high school kids
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Re: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football
« Reply #58 on: December 30, 2024, 04:31:41 PM »
This is what unfettered capitalism looks like.  Not so great, huh?

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Re: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football
« Reply #59 on: December 30, 2024, 04:35:14 PM »
This is what unfettered capitalism looks like.  Not so great, huh?


Make up your mind Fro.  You are on here frequently complaining about corporate greed. Passing the Revenue down to the worker bees. 

Well, that’s exactly what happened in college football. All the screaming at the TV networks and their executives and the corporate greed of keeping all the money but now it’s being passed down to the Work bees. 
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Re: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football
« Reply #60 on: December 30, 2024, 04:38:39 PM »
it's BS, not NIL


many many players are being paid by a collective while less than 5% of the fan base  knows their name, or what they look like.
Their image is not used as marketing to promote a product or service

it's BS
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Re: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football
« Reply #61 on: December 30, 2024, 04:45:38 PM »
What really irks me is we've gone from the big, fat lie that having 120 teams in the same level of football (no rules against a 12-0 MAC team ranked ahead of a 12-0 Texas) to technically including 1 and only 1 of the programs living under that past lie into an impossible gauntlet of the expanded playoff.  

It's all bullshit.

The fixes aren't that difficult, but there's no one to instill them.

NIL monies are what they are, the programs with advantages there earned that advantage over time.  But there obviously needs to be some substantial responsibilities included in the contract on the players' ends.  

Transfer portal needs some combination of limited number of moves w/o sitting out a year.....maybe 3-year minimum when signing out of HS (with HC change allowing for an exception).  Hell, incorporate it into the NIL contract.  
There has to be a way to allow advantaged programs their advantage without literally thousands of players changing schools every year.
Also, obviously, fix the TP calendar.

All of this is just a band-aid without a planned, organized realignment idea in which the big-name, big-money conferences are the overlords and our smaller, regional conferences of yesteryear still exist underneath those umbrellas.

Totally fixable.  Just have to open some decision-makers eyes into understanding the health of the sport will yield more $$$ than limited-scope, health of my program or my own conference thinking.  

Duh.
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Re: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football
« Reply #62 on: December 30, 2024, 04:47:01 PM »
Make up your mind Fro.  You are on here frequently complaining about corporate greed. Passing the Revenue down to the worker bees.

Well, that’s exactly what happened in college football. All the screaming at the TV networks and their executives and the corporate greed of keeping all the money but now it’s being passed down to the Work bees.

One is real life and the other is a game.  Not the same.
College football can never wind up in a violent revolution.  Real life can and does.
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Re: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football
« Reply #63 on: December 30, 2024, 04:55:33 PM »
how about a non-violent revolution in court?
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Re: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football
« Reply #64 on: December 30, 2024, 05:45:15 PM »
One is real life and the other is a game.  Not the same.
College football can never wind up in a violent revolution.  Real life can and does.
When millions of dollars are on the line, it's pretty fucking real

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Re: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football
« Reply #65 on: December 30, 2024, 05:58:11 PM »
Wow guys.

In society, radical income inequality yields a few ultra-wealthy people and many in poverty and homelessness.

In college football, radical income inequality yields a few winning programs and many student-athletes on scholarship with free room and board.


Let's stop pretending they're anything alike and move on with the actual topic, MMMMKAY?
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Re: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football
« Reply #66 on: December 30, 2024, 06:02:51 PM »
I'm ok with that
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Re: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football
« Reply #67 on: December 31, 2024, 10:28:11 AM »
I might call it a "more predictable irrationality" though. The itch that is being scratched in Cleveland by rooting for the Browns is an emotional itch, not a logical one. It's a coping mechanism against the fear of staring out into the existentialist void and not finding meaning at all. Some go to church on Sundays. Others go hang out in a parking lot in Cleveland and drink beer and grill meat before going into the stadium with 60,000 of their closest "friends" to root for the Browns.

Ultimately the meaning is what we assign it to be. The point of my post is that it seems more and more that the structural changes of the sport are chipping away at the foundation and making it seem like we're trying to assign meaning to a cathedral in the process of collapsing.

For as much as I dislike the earthquake of recent changes to college football, I’m not quite as pessimistic toward college football losing its personal value and social highlight. But the nature of how I will relate to college football is and will change, for me. While college football is veering on becoming too difficult to have value as an entertainment escape, it can meet another human need I earlier left unmentioned: fulfilling a yearning for our past.

A yearning for our past – is a yearning, to quote the novelist Philip Roth, for “…the unfiltered way meaning comes to children, just flowing off the surface of things.” When meaning was inherent everywhere. It’s why our favorite eras of college football are almost always the eras we grew up with. It’s why the different generations of Star Wars fans – Gen X, Millennials – defend the versions they grew up with – Original Trilogy, Clone Wars. It’s why you might see the elderly restlessly chase youthful urges through unwise romances or unrealistic purchases.

The changes college football is currently inflicting itself with is accelerating this sense of loss. On one hand, there’s community in remembering the good times, and the older among us will inevitably consult the past. Older Michigan and Ohio State fans fondly remembering the rivalry between Woody Hayes and Bo Schembechler, for example.

Leveraging the past is everywhere now, and it plays out beyond its age-driven inevitability: Talk Radio airing archived 1990s rebroadcasts of Art Bell to fill Saturday night airtime. McDonald’s selling ‘adult Happy Meals.’ Harrison Ford getting dragged back into the Indiana Jones franchise. Nicole Kidman, Demi Moore, and Pamela Anderson unironically featured as sex symbols in very recently released movies (good for them!?).

So why the yearning for the past? As we get older the past is where we find more of ourselves – or at least a growing sense of ourselves that’s heightened by a present that’s increasingly more difficult to keep up with. The past is where we’ve spent so much of ourselves, and will still see ourselves.

For as much as we’ve stated our dislike of college football’s abrupt changes – especially the transfer portal – there’s a viewer’s way through this mess by living for the moments when the more grounded, appreciable past days appear in the present. Watching Washington/Rutgers on a Friday night carries no sense of the game we accustomed ourselves to. But watching Tennessee/Kentucky on a Saturday night might relive the sport’s potential. That’s what I’ve learned to watch for these days. The recent Ohio State/Michigan game lived up to its history, pepper spray and all. As did Texas/Texas A&M and Iowa/Iowa St.

Growing a greater appreciation of your past in light of an increasingly uncertain present is a consolation of growing older that nobody mentions.

In a twist to this, it isn’t just college football fans going through similar dissatisfaction. After years of mindlessly formulating remakes, sequels, and live-action reimaginings, Hollywood has put itself in the less profitable position of competing against its past self, where mainstream viewership is starting to prefer more time with older shows like Gilmore Girls, to the point a few of the older shows are topping streaming ratings.

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Re: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football
« Reply #68 on: December 31, 2024, 11:44:27 AM »
I'm with BaB from the OP. The bowl games were never important unless your team was playing in them. The media never cared about the trophy games unless they were covering them. Even today you can easily google up articles and videos about those topics, if that interests you more than the cfp

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Re: The Plight of a Non-Helmet Fan in Modern College Football
« Reply #69 on: December 31, 2024, 12:20:23 PM »
The bowl game thing was another bad case of unfettered capitalism?  Oh, you can throw a couple of random-ass, .500 teams together and still make money?!?  Deal!!!!  It's like the Producers.  It doesn't have to be good, it just has to exist!

College football needed someone to say "no, flooding the market with mediocrity isn't a good thing for the sport," and stop the dozens of bowl games.  Not because they were a bane on our existence and not for any other excuse/reason other than it wasn't good for the sport.
IF you want bowls to be special and matter in the eyes of the fans, make them rare and exclusive.  Duh!  

So the bowls basically water themselves down to near meaninglessness AND THEN the CFP comes along and saps what little interest there was in them.  Brilliant.  

I'm at the point of feeling like even bad leadership would have been better than the zero leadership the sport has had.  
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