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Topic: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)

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Re: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)
« Reply #266 on: December 29, 2024, 09:25:24 PM »
extremely?

how about the Gator's Frosh QB?
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Re: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)
« Reply #267 on: December 29, 2024, 09:40:49 PM »
DJ Lagway was a recruit.
am I right?
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Re: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)
« Reply #268 on: December 29, 2024, 10:25:03 PM »
DJ Lagway was a recruit.
am I right?
Ummm, all players were once recruits.....
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Re: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)
« Reply #269 on: December 29, 2024, 10:47:06 PM »
well then, apparently, recruiting still matters
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Re: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)
« Reply #270 on: December 29, 2024, 11:51:24 PM »
JFC
No one said "recruiting doesn't matter" - I was saying who you play at home no longer matters in recruiting, now that schools are throwing money at these recruits.

Is that really what you took away from my reply to cincy?  Like for real?  Recruiting doesn't matter?!?  You saw his post and my reply and BOOM - "OAM thinks recruiting doesn't matter!"

FFS
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Re: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)
« Reply #271 on: December 30, 2024, 07:55:19 AM »
well, I think who you play at home for a kids visit does matter

much different experience and atmosphere in Lincoln for the weekend of the Colorado game than the Northern Iowa game

yes, a shit ton more money probably trumps the gameday experience, but if the money is similar, some kids are just kids wanting to have a good time in college
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Re: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)
« Reply #272 on: December 30, 2024, 08:17:32 AM »
Programs put a LOT of emphasis on recruiting, so I suspect they think it matters, a lot.  I think it matters, a lot, also.  A thing which helps recruiting will often be attractive, like scheduling some major OOC games.  It's a factor, in my view.

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Re: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)
« Reply #273 on: December 30, 2024, 10:00:20 AM »
Imagine a team that plays 3 worthy OOC opponents in a season, versus another that plays one.  Maybe the former goes 2-1 if it has a CFP worthy team.  That isn't going to hurt them much at all if they do well in conference play (which is a given).  The latter team has about a 50-50 chance of winning its single game, so in some years they get a black mark and in some years not.  I don't think scheduling "up" lessens one's shot at the CFP, if we're talking about CFP worthy teams.

The 3 loss teams THIS year didn't suffer from OOC losses at all, so that couldn't have harmed their CFP chances.  As for conference play, it's a crap shoot, some years you're going to miss the better teams like Indiana did and some years you get the hammer.  Granted, if Indiana had somehow schedule say ND OOC in the regular season, they would have been out had they lost that one.

A P2 team that goes 11-1 likely will slide into the CFP as an at large, but the road will then end shortly.  Maybe they shouldn't, but they will.

Did Indiana have a softer conference slate than others?  Sure.  Did they contrive to do that?  No.

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Re: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)
« Reply #274 on: December 30, 2024, 11:19:05 AM »
Ohio State once made the playoff on the fact another team had a garbage non-conference schedule. Changed the course of a season. 

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Re: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)
« Reply #275 on: December 30, 2024, 04:30:32 PM »
Sure, I think it is a factor when teams' records are one loss apart.  We'll see 10-2 teams ahead of 11-1 teams fairly often as a result.  The current No. 2 team ranked is 11-2 ahead of some one loss teams.  I see a benefit in scheduling a pretty solid OOC slate.  And yes, it might cost you if you schedule 3 and lose all three.  That probably means you're not CFP worthy.

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Re: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)
« Reply #276 on: December 30, 2024, 04:54:02 PM »
If a school plays a better OOC opponent for visiting recruits, the additional risk of a loss is going to be worse than the 'cool factor' of your stadium atmosphere.

And if another school is going to pay a recruit 1 more dollar than you are, say goodbye to that recruit.

It's not complicated.
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Re: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)
« Reply #277 on: December 30, 2024, 04:58:37 PM »
I disagree

even if you take that loss, getting a couple difference makin recruits could get you in the playoff a few seasons down the road
might be worth it

and

if Purdue is offering $10 more than Michigan and Ohio St., that's not enuff to get that recruit.
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Re: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)
« Reply #278 on: December 30, 2024, 05:08:44 PM »
The money factor indeed is one enticement, but as noted, it's not the only one.  Nobody elite is going to Ball State because they offered him more money.

I took a lower paying job when I started working because other factors dominated in my decision.

Of course, if recruiting is no longer worth much, then the whole thing is moot anyway.

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Re: The New Newer Newest Era of College Football (SOC Playoffs Round 1)
« Reply #279 on: December 31, 2024, 03:28:29 PM »
Purdue and Ball State isn't offering more money, soo.....
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