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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #84 on: November 05, 2017, 09:07:23 AM »
Boss Hawg almost lost to Coastal Something yesterday and needed a 4Q comeback to not lose. That surely would have been then end for him had he lost. It still may be.
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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #85 on: November 05, 2017, 09:45:07 AM »
Almost losing to Coastal Southwest Eastern Carolina is cause for termination in my book.  The thing is, how many SEC teams are going to be looking at the same time?  Supply and demand.

You could end up late to the party and having to take your 4th or 5th choice, or just having to FIND anyone, like your interim coach just to have a coach.

I started a thread in SECland about what aspects make for a great coach and how many games in a season a great coach wins that a so-so coach would have lost.  Some of that of course depends on "how long was he there?".

Second year coaches seem to do well in many cases, which is interesting.  Maybe you should hire and fire a coach every two years.   :57:

SEC program that could be without a coach come January 5:  Arky, A&M, Florida, Tenn, Auburn (???), Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU, Mizzou ... that's one conference.  Imagine half of those programs are looking ......

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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #86 on: November 05, 2017, 10:19:04 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 05, 2017, 09:45:07 AM
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You could end up late to the party and having to take your 4th or 5th choice, or just having to FIND anyone, like your interim coach just to have a coach.

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SEC program that could be without a coach come January 5:  Arky, A&M, Florida, Tenn, Auburn (???), Ole Miss, Miss State, LSU, Mizzou ... that's one conference.  Imagine half of those programs are looking ......


Which is why as a fan/follower of the Arizona schools I'm glad they've won their way out firing their coaches amidst a coaching search season that's destined to truly be cut throat. And the SEC vacancies will ripple nation wide and limit who UCLA can go out and try hiring, as if the Burins aren't already limited by a lazy AD. And once vacancies start filling up you'll see the trickle down effect of resultant openings at presumably Central Florida, Iowa State, Cal, Mississippi St, Florida Atlantic (yes, a Kiffin flyer) and (gulp) Utah. If Nebraska really wants Frost (which they should!) what is the new AD waiting for? Fire Riley and offer Frost by COB tomorrow!
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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #87 on: November 05, 2017, 12:40:36 PM »
It would be interesting to see stats on how many coaches on average a top tier programs goes through after firing a reasonably successful coach who was not quite enough before they find a real replacement.

Tennessee is on the verge of going through another and at some point recruits don't even consider you a top tier program in any sense different from Kentucky.

It's risky either way.  Keep a disappointing coach and watch money dry up.  Fire him and perhaps get worse for three years or more.  This is why I worried about firing Richt.

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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #88 on: November 05, 2017, 03:21:04 PM »
Sounds like Sumlin is gone from A&M
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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #89 on: November 05, 2017, 03:55:59 PM »
Most SEC teams are not very good right now, and most of their fan bases want better.

Part of this is the "Saban Effect".
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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #90 on: November 05, 2017, 06:51:26 PM »
I long for the days when a 9 win season (10 in this era) was good/great and finishing in the top 20/25 was good/great. Making a bowl game was special. Winning one was a bonus but not required.

Oh well.

It is what it is.
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« Reply #91 on: November 05, 2017, 06:59:07 PM »
rumor in Lincoln from a guy with ties to boosters of substance says that Scott Frost is coming to UNL

we shall see
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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #92 on: November 05, 2017, 07:59:10 PM »
GL hope it works out
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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #93 on: November 05, 2017, 08:04:13 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 05, 2017, 06:59:07 PM
rumor in Lincoln from a guy with ties to boosters of substance says that Scott Frost is coming to UNL

we shall see
I hope so.
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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #94 on: November 06, 2017, 09:26:00 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on November 05, 2017, 06:59:07 PM
rumor in Lincoln from a guy with ties to boosters of substance says that Scott Frost is coming to UNL

we shall see
What about Les Miles?  I read he wants to get back into coaching.  He is now an annalist on BTN. 
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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #95 on: November 06, 2017, 11:11:48 AM »
I would hope the UNL AD is on the phone with Frost's agent every day.


Another guy who will probably get a good look for P5 jobs is Lane Kiffin. Don't laugh.

He's got FAU sitting at 6-3, 5-0 in conference and in first place. This is a team that won 3 total games last year.
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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #96 on: November 06, 2017, 11:35:20 AM »
Imagine the irony if Kiffy goes to UCLA
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Re: The Hot Seats
« Reply #97 on: November 06, 2017, 11:37:00 AM »
Quote from: fezzador on November 06, 2017, 11:35:20 AM
Imagine the irony if Kiffy goes to UCLA

The thing is, I think that would be a decent fit for him.  It's an area he's familiar with, and the expectations at UCLA are considerably lower than USC's.  If he can make them 9-3 consistently (which I think he can), and at least occasionally flirts with playoffs/NY6 bowls, he's golden.
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