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Spygate is above and beyond.  Clearly some UM girls snuck into the OSU screening of that Peacock movie

UCF beat #15 OSU2 45-3. 

Wisconsin is fielding what I can only call a breathtakingly incompetent football team.

little shocked to be honest....really thought Fickell would have a big year 1. 

Coaching is also about fit.  I'm starting to wonder if Fickell at a P5.job is a bad fit.  That's not a knock.  I don't know that Kirby Smart could go to a Group of 5 school and reach a CFP (without his current clout).

Some coaches are good at getting elite talent to gel.  Some coaches are good at mining 2 star talent into something.  And levels in between.  Next year is a big prove it year for me with Fickell.  He was great at Cincinnati.  But he has massively underachieved in his first two seasons at the P5 level

The only difference between him and Glen Mason is that he doesn't blow gigantic leads.

Well, and he has top 10 talent.

UCF beat #15 OSU2 45-3.

The Pokes shot their wads on OU.  

Cuz 20 year olds don't play the same every game, despite what you may have heard here.

Coaching is also about fit.  I'm starting to wonder if Fickell at a P5.job is a bad fit.  That's not a knock.  I don't know that Kirby Smart could go to a Group of 5 school and reach a CFP (without his current clout).

Some coaches are good at getting elite talent to gel.  Some coaches are good at mining 2 star talent into something.  And levels in between.  Next year is a big prove it year for me with Fickell.  He was great at Cincinnati.  But he has massively underachieved in his first two seasons at the P5 level

I almost don't put any weight on a coach's first year. So much of coaching, especially for a coach like Fickell, is developing your program. He went 4-8 his first year at Cincinnati.