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Topic: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)

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847badgerfan

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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #224 on: November 17, 2024, 09:21:50 AM »
Oregon and OSU win out.

PSU and IU sit home and watch the game.

Oregon loses its top QB and OSU loses its top WR.

Who won?
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #225 on: November 17, 2024, 09:30:04 AM »
My guess would be tOSU in that scenario as their WR Room is good and deep
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #226 on: November 17, 2024, 09:32:59 AM »
A dead Russell Wilson would be better than what they have now.

1. Joel Stave
2. Jack Coan
3. Alex Hornibrook
4. Bart Houston
5. Graham Mertz

Any of the four would be a vast improvement over the worst college QB I've ever seen.

I'm trying to imagine how the locker room is not lost if they march this kid out there ever again.
I don’t know what it is, but this back up quarterback has somehow caused people around Wisconsin to go forget huge amount of history and lose their minds.

Before I get deep into this, I wanna say that I don’t think he’s a particularly good quarterback. He is a back up in an era where back ups probably should be their worst. He’s a guy who can have some moments against not great defenses. But he’s almost assuredly  not going to beat a particularly good or talented defense without a good bit of support (which is most backups).

That said, I’m pretty sure that I have seen every one of those quarterbacks eat about as much shit as Locke did yesterday (I admittedly, have not seen a dead Russell Wilson play). A Wisconsin quarterback having a crap day against a very talented defense/Iowa is not uncommon. His run game was whatever, his past protection was shit. Receivers are somewhat good but there’s no Abby or Cephus out there. He’s not good, but he’s doing what a lot of Wisconsin quarterbacks do in that situation, and certainly what you would expect from a back up with blue chip pass rushers in his face all the time.

Maybe it is because the quarterback is in the middle of things or because this offense hides them less, but the kid went out and basically did the thing you expect many Wisconsin quarterbacks, and probably most backups to do. I’m not happy it happened. I’m guessing he will be gone at the end of the year anyway. But some people are catastrophizing this in a way that makes them sound like a really not watched a lot of this team before.

(worst you’ve ever seen? My friend, go see a memory specialist, you’ve seen worse. They were just handing off to better players)A


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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #227 on: November 17, 2024, 09:41:37 AM »
I would take any of those QB's I listed over Locke and it's not close.

Give me McEvoy even. Give me Mike Samuel. At least they could run. This kid can't do anything.

Backup? Longo named him QB 1B. What does that tell you? Tells me to fire Longo.

Joel Stave wins that game last night. Let's not be blind to how very bad/terrible Locke is.
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #228 on: November 17, 2024, 09:49:23 AM »
Seems the games must be relatively uninteresting today.

Indeed.

Where were you guys? Debating ancient diets while the first window of games yielded a number of worthwhile observations?

#17 Colorado 49 – Utah 24: Earlier in this thread I criticized Kyle Whittingham for putting what is turning out to be a losing season on the injured shoulders and knees of Cam Rising. However against Colorado yesterday, Utah might’ve reached a turning point with Isaac Wilson (younger brother of Zach Wilson), who due to depleted depth at QB was thrown as a freshman to the wolves early. Yes, Wilson tossed 3 interceptions Vs Colorado, however he emerged as a much needed leader on offense, throwing 21/40, 236yds, & 2 TDs while the running game went cold. Wilson’s headier plays kept Utah closer than the final score indicated, and going forward gives the coaching staff not only a lot to work with in Wilson, but a capable starter to anchor the offense going into next season. At 4-6, Utah is having a down year, but prospects are at least looking better at QB for next season.

#3 Texas 20 – Arkansas 10: Definitely one of those “upset alert” games. Texas is one of only a few teams that can methodically assert their will on just about anybody even when they’re having an off day or aren’t getting breaks their way. Texas is like watching Penn State when Penn State is playing anybody not Ohio State or Michigan. Ok, admittedly that does sound relatively uninteresting.

#20 Clemson 24 – Pitt 20: Entertaining in its unlikely ending – QB Cade Klubnik sprints for a 50 yd game winning TD. All after Pitt put up a fight in the second half, controlling the lines to take a late lead after trailing at the half at 17-7. Given the colder weather combined with the physicality and the clock-controlling strategy of both teams, the gameplay appeared more like an NFL game played in Buffalo, Cleveland, or…Pittsburgh.

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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #229 on: November 17, 2024, 09:59:41 AM »
Clemson game was probably really good

I watched Colorado and Texas - never in doubt, not compelling to me
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #230 on: November 17, 2024, 10:00:56 AM »
The South Carolina - Mizzou game was interesting, I thought, seemed like they had 4 lead changes in the final minutes.

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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #231 on: November 17, 2024, 10:03:21 AM »
lol, so I guess no matter what they do, the refs are crooked
just like the government
they are the government arm of college football
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #232 on: November 17, 2024, 10:03:49 AM »
The South Carolina - Mizzou game was interesting, I thought, seemed like they had 4 lead changes in the final minutes.
Mizzou seems to be good at that while winning or losing
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #233 on: November 17, 2024, 10:05:40 AM »
If I believed the refs were somehow tolf by the "office" to sway a game, I'd completely lose interest in it.  It's a popular belief I find. 
I never believed it until about ten years ago

now, I'll never not believe it
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #235 on: November 17, 2024, 10:08:01 AM »
I guess I still don't believe it, I think fans often believe it while remaining fans, which I find a bit odd.  

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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #236 on: November 17, 2024, 10:11:14 AM »
They can be, but the downside risk is pretty severe in principle.  
well, the brass ring is the big prize of course
But, the brass ring is nearly unobtainable in a 12-team playoff

win the conf champ game and hang a pretty nice banner in the rafters, wear a ring for the rest of your life

sit out the champ game and get a slightly better chance to win the brass ring?
still gonna be a very tough task
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Re: The Cheez-It Bowl is Calling. Will You Answer? (SOC Week 12)
« Reply #237 on: November 17, 2024, 10:14:15 AM »
the chop block call didn't need to be and usually isn't called

but, by the letter of the rule, I don't think it was a horrible call

it's these types of judgement calls that the #1 team in the conference get to their advantage to protect them
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