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Topic: The Battle Of Thermopylae Has Come To The Horseshoe (SOC 11/20/21)

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Re: The Battle Of Thermopylae Has Come To The Horseshoe (SOC 11/20/21)
« Reply #294 on: November 21, 2021, 12:07:37 AM »
Championships try that - more impressive logic indicates than 10 win seasons
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Re: The Battle Of Thermopylae Has Come To The Horseshoe (SOC 11/20/21)
« Reply #295 on: November 21, 2021, 12:11:27 AM »
Ur definitely trolling.
The fun fact was about 10-win seasons.
I'm sorry you're that bored.
Goodnight.
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Re: The Battle Of Thermopylae Has Come To The Horseshoe (SOC 11/20/21)
« Reply #296 on: November 21, 2021, 12:15:50 AM »
Never stated as a fun fact just piling on - sweet dreams
« Last Edit: November 21, 2021, 08:41:03 AM by MrNubbz »
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Re: The Battle Of Thermopylae Has Come To The Horseshoe (SOC 11/20/21)
« Reply #297 on: November 21, 2021, 12:47:09 AM »
Good fight tonight.  Crawford a machine.   Really good effort by Porter.  

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Re: The Battle Of Thermopylae Has Come To The Horseshoe (SOC 11/20/21)
« Reply #298 on: November 21, 2021, 07:24:36 AM »
Yeah, but they play more games now.  Context.
Compare schedules. Bama's run is far better then FSU's.
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Re: The Battle Of Thermopylae Has Come To The Horseshoe (SOC 11/20/21)
« Reply #299 on: November 21, 2021, 07:53:25 AM »
More opportunities, even difficult ones, are still additional opportunities.  This isn't difficult, guys.

Why do I get the feeling that if I was some non-descript poster, you'd agree with me?
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Re: The Battle Of Thermopylae Has Come To The Horseshoe (SOC 11/20/21)
« Reply #301 on: November 21, 2021, 09:41:54 AM »
More opportunities, even difficult ones, are still additional opportunities.  This isn't difficult, guys.

Why do I get the feeling that if I was some non-descript poster, you'd agree with me?
no one agrees with anyone around here

that wouldn't be fun

you're special, but not that special
see, I'm not even going to agree with you on this ;)
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Re: The Battle Of Thermopylae Has Come To The Horseshoe (SOC 11/20/21)
« Reply #302 on: November 21, 2021, 09:51:16 AM »
Compare schedules. Bama's run is far better then FSU's.
perhaps not depth of schedule, but FSU was playing the Canes and the Gators each season when all 3 programs were pretty stout

for example:  1998 Noles schedule included #14 Texas A&M, #18 USC, the unranked Canes, who must have sucked, #20 Georgia Tech, #12 Virginia, #4 Florida, and a bowl game vs #1 Tennessee

Canes ended with 3 losses ranked #20 in the AP
But, it's not the SEC SEC SEC
of course Bama or this season Georgia doesn't play all the best SEC teams in a given season
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Re: The Battle Of Thermopylae Has Come To The Horseshoe (SOC 11/20/21)
« Reply #303 on: November 21, 2021, 10:06:13 AM »
UGA right now has played no ranked teams if Arkansas drops out, unless Clemson creeps in.

Their toughest opponents were probably at Tenn and at Auburn.  

Ohio State looks really good, maybe this is akin to the VaTech loss season.

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Re: The Battle Of Thermopylae Has Come To The Horseshoe (SOC 11/20/21)
« Reply #304 on: November 21, 2021, 10:49:00 AM »
This is a stupid debate.

14 consecutive 10-win seasons is a ridiculous achievement in any era. Kudos to both teams for achieving it. 

That said, OAM is absolutely right that context matters. Teams get more games every year, and in the era of CCG and the CFP, you can potentially have up to 15 games per year, where much of FSU's run would be a maximum of 12 games. From 1987 until 2000, in those 14 years FSU played 12 games 11 times, and 13 games 3 times. During Alabama's run, they have NEVER played less than 13 games in a single season. 

OAM is also right that this is not some definitive answer which tells us whose achievement is more significant. After all, the first half of FSU's was independent, and the second half was the ACC. That's not nearly as difficult SOS as Alabama, who spent all of that time in the SEC SEC SEC SEC!!! I'd also argue that the era where FSU was doing it might have been a little more, let's say loose, with NCAA enforcement of recruiting violations. And Alabama, while I don't think they're paying players, basically ignited the spending arms race not only with facilities, but also with hiring coaches for "non-coaching" analyst roles, having enormous staff for recruiting evaluation, etc etc. 

So these are both amazing runs by any team. The context of number of games is important, and shouldn't be discounted if you're trying to compare them. The context of number of games also doesn't automatically give FSU the advantage if you're trying to compare them, because conference and era of football also shouldn't be discounted. 

But everyone jumps to conclusions whenever OAM opens his mouth. 

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Re: The Battle Of Thermopylae Has Come To The Horseshoe (SOC 11/20/21)
« Reply #305 on: November 21, 2021, 11:09:55 AM »
This is a stupid debate.

and it's not even the off-season yet :91:
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Re: The Battle Of Thermopylae Has Come To The Horseshoe (SOC 11/20/21)
« Reply #306 on: November 21, 2021, 11:27:36 AM »
Both runs were impressive, no doubt.  And it's tough to compare between somewhat different eras.  Tennessee allowed no points in the entire regular season one year.

I do think Ohio State's run of very few bad seasons is unparalleled, none for more than 2-3 years.

FSU's top five finishes is astonishing.  1995 Nebraska was a massive team.  UGA's new running back weighs 350 pounds and is 6'7".


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Re: The Battle Of Thermopylae Has Come To The Horseshoe (SOC 11/20/21)
« Reply #307 on: November 21, 2021, 06:37:37 PM »
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