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utee94

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #126 on: July 25, 2018, 12:10:03 PM »
What if the Big XII still had enough bowl eligible teams to fulfill all of their tie-ins?
That seems pretty unlikely, as most conferences are seemingly tie into more than they can fulfill, simply because those bowls would rather have first crack at the Big Ten #10 (or whatever) if by chance they are sitting there, than CUSA #3.  They can go grab a random CUSA team if needed, and from their perspective there's no difference between being guaranteed the #3 team over having to settle for the #6 team once the Big Ten fails to fill all of their slots.
I still think medina's point about the bowl having a case at missing out on, for example, Texas or Oklahoma specifically, is a valid one.  The truth is that Baylor and ISU aren't going to draw as many eyeballs as Texas, so the bowl (or rather, the bowl's media/marketing/advertising partners) would have at least some claim to damages based on lost revenue.
The real point is, this is so convoluted and tangled, that a conference-affiliated university with those complex media contracts, isn't going to attempt it.  We're discussing a hypothetical that's never going to happen.

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« Reply #127 on: July 25, 2018, 12:10:53 PM »
It's still the preseason... so ... this ... makes ... this ... a ... preseason Alabama team?
if you listen to the radio down here you'd think we were in mid-season form, sans the qb situation. which everyone knows what will happen except the coaches apparently.

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #128 on: July 25, 2018, 12:25:11 PM »
if you listen to the radio down here you'd think we were in mid-season form, sans the qb situation. which everyone knows what will happen except the coaches apparently.
Y'all are gonna roll on to another NC.  Doesn't matter who you have at QB.  Pretty boring for the rest of us, but if it were my team I'd be thrilled with each and every crystal football (or whatever it is these days, I wouldn't know).

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #129 on: July 25, 2018, 12:29:10 PM »
I still think medina's point about the bowl having a case at missing out on, for example, Texas or Oklahoma specifically, is a valid one.  The truth is that Baylor and ISU aren't going to draw as many eyeballs as Texas, so the bowl (or rather, the bowl's media/marketing/advertising partners) would have at least some claim to damages based on lost revenue.

The real point is, this is so convoluted and tangled, that a conference-affiliated university with those complex media contracts, isn't going to attempt it.  We're discussing a hypothetical that's never going to happen.
This is almost exactly the answer I was going to give when I saw that question.  The damages that the bowl could sue for would be lost revenue from having a school with less fans in their bowl.  

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« Reply #130 on: July 25, 2018, 12:38:49 PM »
Good point, now that they're tied into the ACC's bowl contracts, they likely forfeited that freedom. I won't claim to know anything about how those contracts are written between them and the ACC.  But it would make sense that they're not allowed to turn down an invitation.
They had a Big East tie in before that. 

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #131 on: July 25, 2018, 12:41:49 PM »
Y'all are gonna roll on to another NC.  Doesn't matter who you have at QB.  Pretty boring for the rest of us, but if it were my team I'd be thrilled with each and every crystal football (or whatever it is these days, I wouldn't know).

The Crystal FB is no longer the primary trophy that is presented at game's end, nonetheless it is still awarded to the NC via the Coaches Poll. 

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #132 on: July 25, 2018, 01:07:01 PM »
This is almost exactly the answer I was going to give when I saw that question.  The damages that the bowl could sue for would be lost revenue from having a school with less fans in their bowl.  
Well now we are talking about a claim by the bowl vs. a claim by the conference.

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #133 on: July 25, 2018, 02:46:55 PM »
Over the 1970s, only two programs finished with more than 100 victories, and both of them -- Oklahoma and Alabama -- ran the Wishbone for virtually the entire decade.

Leach, whose offense just led the nation in passing attempts for the sixth straight year, isn't so sure, either -- that still, 50 years later, Bellard's brainchild, in its original form, couldn't flourish.

"Nobody has ever truly stopped the Wishbone," he said. "There's a point to where people have lost interest in the Wishbone. But nobody ever really successfully stopped it."
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #134 on: July 25, 2018, 03:03:16 PM »
Y'all are gonna roll on to another NC.  Doesn't matter who you have at QB.  Pretty boring for the rest of us, but if it were my team I'd be thrilled with each and every crystal football (or whatever it is these days, I wouldn't know).

our secondary worries me more than qb. the qb gets headlines, but we have one that's gotten us to the cfp title games twice and was 1 second away from winning one. if the other one beats him out, i feel good about his game.
but we lost our entire secondary. both corners, star, nickle, and both safeties, 6 players all gone.
only thing that comforts me some is:
1 - our dline should be able to get a ton of pressure on qb and shorten time the db's have to hold down the fort.
2 - our schedule is weak, especially on heavy passing teams. aTm, the most pass happy threat in west, is going to more pro style with jimbo, leaving only louisville as only real threat that are also air-borne attacks. au, msu and lsu are all based on ground game primarily.

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #135 on: July 25, 2018, 03:03:50 PM »
Over the 1970s, only two programs finished with more than 100 victories, and both of them -- Oklahoma and Alabama -- ran the Wishbone for virtually the entire decade.

Leach, whose offense just led the nation in passing attempts for the sixth straight year, isn't so sure, either -- that still, 50 years later, Bellard's brainchild, in its original form, couldn't flourish.

"Nobody has ever truly stopped the Wishbone," he said. "There's a point to where people have lost interest in the Wishbone. But nobody ever really successfully stopped it."
i'd love to see the pirate break out the wishbone. he's crazy enough to try it too.

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« Reply #136 on: July 25, 2018, 03:11:10 PM »
did ya read the wishbone story on ESPN.com?

linked on the offseason thread
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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #137 on: July 25, 2018, 04:01:29 PM »
did ya read the wishbone story on ESPN.com?

linked on the offseason thread
partially, will catch rest later. why

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #138 on: July 25, 2018, 04:12:09 PM »
reference to the Bear waiting for the Texas coaches to get to work to open the office
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: The 80% Club
« Reply #139 on: July 25, 2018, 06:23:49 PM »
our secondary worries me more than qb. the qb gets headlines, but we have one that's gotten us to the cfp title games twice and was 1 second away from winning one. if the other one beats him out, i feel good about his game.
but we lost our entire secondary. both corners, star, nickle, and both safeties, 6 players all gone.
only thing that comforts me some is:
1 - our dline should be able to get a ton of pressure on qb and shorten time the db's have to hold down the fort.
2 - our schedule is weak, especially on heavy passing teams. aTm, the most pass happy threat in west, is going to more pro style with jimbo, leaving only louisville as only real threat that are also air-borne attacks. au, msu and lsu are all based on ground game primarily.
Also comforting is that Alabama is once again the most talented team in the country, by far.  That can't get old.
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

 

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