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Topic: The 1996 National Championship

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Cincydawg

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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2019, 01:42:14 PM »
How UGA stays so bad at men's Bball is interesting to me.  They have been to one final four, ever.  They used to have more fans show up for gymnastic events than bball.

I'm going to say their academic requirements are too high, yeah.

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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2019, 01:53:34 PM »
Which programs outside the South have a reasonable shot?

Not many. When Oklahoma and Ohio State are struggling to compete the rest of us face a steep climb. 

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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2019, 01:59:36 PM »
How many programs have a reasonable shot period?

Granted, we've only had five.  If we ignore the first year as an anomaly (!), we've had two winners.

And, the #1 and #2 teams in the preseason rankings will be those two teams, again.


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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2019, 02:02:21 PM »
I predict Clemson will fade after Saban retires.
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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2019, 03:17:02 PM »
How UGA stays so bad at men's Bball is interesting to me.  They have been to one final four, ever.  They used to have more fans show up for gymnastic events than bball.

I'm going to say their academic requirements are too high, yeah.
Didn't a completely mediocre UGA win the SEC tournament a few years ago and make the field as a 14-seed?
And "only" one Final Four is still better than a lot of schools.  Current #1 Tennessee has zero (and just one Elite Eight if memory serves)

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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #47 on: February 04, 2019, 04:23:34 PM »
Yeah, UGA that year was 4-12 in SEC play.  A tornado whipped through downtown ATL during the tournament stopping one game.  UGA won four in a row at the tournament to make the NCAAs.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_SEC_Men%27s_Basketball_Tournament

During overtime of the Friday night quarterfinal between Mississippi State and Alabama, a tornado hit the Georgia Dome at 9:40 p.m.[4]The National Weather Service had issued a tornado warning at 9:26 p.m., because radar indicated a thunderstorm capable of producing a tornado.[5] The storm tore open a panel on the north side of the dome; sheared bolts and insulation fell into the arena. After the storm passed, the teams returned to the court at 10:30 and completed the game.[4]

Georgia, which had a sub-.500 record going into the tournament and had to win the title to secure an NCAA Tournament bid, was forced to play and win three games in the space of 30 hours, including two games on Saturday — the original quarterfinal game against Kentucky that was postponed by the tornado and venue change, and the subsequent semifinal game.


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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2019, 10:23:52 PM »
Is it odd that I find pride in Florida's apathy about basketball?  We won back-to-back NCs in hoops and it's like:  cool, how's the football team doing?  
Having NCs in football, basketball, and baseball, all within 10 years is pretty cool, though.
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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2019, 07:31:53 AM »
Is it odd that I find pride in Florida's apathy about basketball?  We won back-to-back NCs in hoops and it's like:  cool, how's the football team doing?  
Having NCs in football, basketball, and baseball, all within 10 years is pretty cool, though.
I watched Florida win the football NC in Glendale, Arizona in January, 2007 then watched them win the BB NC a few months later in Atlanta, Georgia.  As an Ohio State fan it was frustrating to lose both to the same school.  If you think about it, it really shouldn't be.  Ohio State's accomplishment of making the CG in both in the same year is a phenomenal achievement.  AFAIK, only Ohio State, Florida, and Oklahoma have ever done that (I could be missing somebody).  If Ohio State had lost the CFB CG to a football school that typically sucks at BB (say Bama) and lost the CBB CG to a BB school that typically sucks at FB (say Kansas) it would have felt a lot better, LoL.  

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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2019, 07:53:21 AM »
As fans, we can put the definition of "successful year" too high for those of us who are fans of upper level programs.

I try and think each year what kind of season would be a success and it's never included winning the whole thing (which would be a success obviously).  A season is either a success or a disappointment, with a narrow line in between, which is where UGA ended up this past year in fact.


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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2019, 08:49:51 AM »
Yes, and a lot of that depends when you were born, in comparison to how your school has done during your viewing lifetime.
I may be among the worst "mighty" Gators fans, because my viewing lifetime began the same year Spurrier started at Florida.  My few college football memories pre-1990 weren't necessarily of Florida football.  
So I've seen all of UF's NCs, 2 Heismans, all of the SEC titles, and a top 3 program overall, nationally.  So that's my baseline as we inch forward.  Yes, a 9-3 regular season being considered good or over-achieving feels odd.  
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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2019, 09:09:09 AM »
Heh. I became a Badger fan in the '80's, BKB (Before King Barry). I remember being able to get a sweatshirt outside of the stadium for $3. T-shirts were $2. If you stood outside the stadium before the game, it was very likely you could get a ticket for somewhere between $0 and $5, depending on the opponent. 


If it was Iowa, they were higher, and there would be 25-30K Iowa fans inside. 


Needless to say, the past 25+ years have been really fun.
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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2019, 10:01:00 AM »
Didn't a completely mediocre UGA win the SEC tournament a few years ago and make the field as a 14-seed?
And "only" one Final Four is still better than a lot of schools.  Current #1 Tennessee has zero (and just one Elite Eight if memory serves)
I wouldn't say better than a lot of schools.  You are correct, Tennessee has never been.  2nd most NCAA Tourney appearances without a Final Four, behind only Missouri.  Alabama, Boston College, Texas Tech, Vanderbilt, Arizona State, Texas A&M, Clemson, Miami and Virginia Tech are some other Power 5 schools with a decent-ish history to have never made one.

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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2019, 10:03:14 AM »
Yes, and a lot of that depends when you were born, in comparison to how your school has done during your viewing lifetime.
I may be among the worst "mighty" Gators fans, because my viewing lifetime began the same year Spurrier started at Florida.  My few college football memories pre-1990 weren't necessarily of Florida football.  
So I've seen all of UF's NCs, 2 Heismans, all of the SEC titles, and a top 3 program overall, nationally.  So that's my baseline as we inch forward.  Yes, a 9-3 regular season being considered good or over-achieving feels odd.  
Saw an MSU fan (prior to this 2 game mini-slide) saying he really needed a deep tourney run this year because it's "been a while."  I think statements like that show when various MSU fans allegiance started.  It's been a while?  4 years?  7 Final Fours in like 15 years really spoiled the hell out of that fan base.  I think only 8 schools have been to as many EVER as MSU has been to since 1999, and they are all blue bloods (Duke, UNC, Kentucky, UCLA, Indiana, Kansas, etc...)  MSU themselves had only been to 2 ever prior to that.

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Re: The 1996 National Championship
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2019, 10:40:39 AM »
Is it odd that I find pride in Florida's apathy about basketball?  We won back-to-back NCs in hoops and it's like:  cool, how's the football team doing?  
Having NCs in football, basketball, and baseball, all within 10 years is pretty cool, though.
I find it infuriating, Lol.  Florida clearly is a football school but has 5 Final Fours and two national titles in the last 25 years.
Michigan and Ohio St also have solid basketball traditions where football is king.

 

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