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There is a reason slave TRADE was outlawed in Europe and the US well before the US Civil War (1808 in the US).  It became widely viewed as barbaric.

So, in the US, slavery was often viewed as "OK", but the Atlantic slave trade was not.

And had there  been no Civil War, slavery would have persisted in the US for decades, I think, perhaps even to 1900.

Yes, the outcome of the Civil War was a good thing.  Duh.
No, citing it as a positive feature of our gov't system is not prudent (not a point made by you, someone else).  Duh.

European history has quite a bit of dark periods, and events.  I find it useful to try and understand as much as possible, as "we" are mostly Europeans originally.

I didn't learn much of it in school, that's for sure, some of my HS teachers were, well, at times incoherent, which I see around here at times.  I have enjoyed reading about it on my own later in life.  Much of it gets messy, humans like stories where one side is all bad and the other is all good, and history isn't really like that, though at times one side does look pretty awful.

Europe today MIGHT be in better shape had Napoleon ended up victorious.  It can be debated ad nauseum.  Much of what we read and learn about him was written by ..... who?

As has been said previously, numerous times, a college football show by any 3 posters here would be pure entertainment, as it would devolve into the muck rather quickly.  But I think we'd all be friendly by the end of each episode.

I really value you guys and would break bread with any of you.  We agree on most things, but it's more stimulating to discuss the other bits.

And if we messed up and stayed on-topic about football, we'd all have a blast.  

Do you ever wonder WHY Africans sold their brethren?  Or is that too deep?

Probably because they were not their "brethren". They were captured prisoners from other tribes, as I understand it. 

Imagine that each African tribe was its own "county", acting mostly independently, with no over-arching national sense of unity. Then it'll make sense 

I have my retirement job, but if they wave enuff money......
I do have a face for radio
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Like momma always told me, "Boy, you got a face for radio and a voice for print."

No wonder I became a writer ;-) 

You think the Africans who were the ones capturing prisoners and then selling them as slaves didn't have guns?

He's hung up on this, badly, as is shown on previous pages.  I've seen ignorance, it's fine, but this level of arrogant stupidity and intransigence is remarkable, to me.