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Cincydawg

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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #140 on: June 24, 2024, 09:25:47 AM »
Actually, a lot of nothern states allowed slavery until much later than the "get go".  New York banned slavery in 1827.  And of course Delaware was much later (December 1865).  New Jersey started a gradual process in 1804.  Maryland and Kentucky of course after the Civil War as well.

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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #141 on: June 24, 2024, 09:29:20 AM »
Our governmental type was an experiment.  I'd guess a lot of the FFs had serious doubts it could last, they wrote as much, some of them.

The FFs feared pure democracy about as much as monarchy, and maybe more.  Nothing like this had ever been attempted, not even in Greece back when.  And it was unique in the world at the time.  The European monarchies no doubt sneered at it, and were thankful it was "over here".  They reacted rather strongly when France started a kind of republic of course.  The French attempt obviously failed quickly, and badly.

They are on the Fifth Republic now (and not doing all that great either).  

I think we're still in the experiment phase, and it's interesting we've lasted this long, but at some point, voters know they can elect politicians who will pay them off, and that happened a while ago, hence our burgeoning national debt.

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« Reply #142 on: June 24, 2024, 09:38:12 AM »
Our governmental type was an experiment.  I'd guess a lot of the FFs had serious doubts it could last, they wrote as much, some of them.

The FFs feared pure democracy about as much as monarchy, and maybe more.  Nothing like this had ever been attempted, not even in Greece back when.  And it was unique in the world at the time.  The European monarchies no doubt sneered at it, and were thankful it was "over here".  They reacted rather strongly when France started a kind of republic of course.  The French attempt obviously failed quickly, and badly.

They are on the Fifth Republic now (and not doing all that great either). 

I think we're still in the experiment phase, and it's interesting we've lasted this long, but at some point, voters know they can elect politicians who will pay them off, and that happened a while ago, hence our burgeoning national debt.
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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #143 on: June 24, 2024, 12:31:36 PM »

Aw yes. Pride of Waldo, Ohio.

Basically, a hot dog in disc form.

Caramelized,teriyaki glazed spam, scallion scrambled Evetta Farms eggs, asadero cheese, cilantro, hoisin, sriracha and hashbrowns rolled up crunchwrap style. $2 cheladas today

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« Reply #144 on: June 24, 2024, 12:34:10 PM »
Looks great.

$2 is cheap for that.

Where?
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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #145 on: June 24, 2024, 12:34:42 PM »
So, we have:

Spam
Sausage of varying kinds
Hotdogs

All basically mystery meat, no?  We could probably add ground beef, which you can get as 85-15, or 93-7, or 80-20, or even 70-30.


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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #146 on: June 24, 2024, 12:42:11 PM »


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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #147 on: June 24, 2024, 03:32:47 PM »

Love that place. 

A couple of years ago, we took some friends there on our way to Columbus. They weren't sure about eating fried bologna, but once they had it, they now want to go back. We will drive down on occasion on a Fri or Sat evening just for the hell of it. 


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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #148 on: June 24, 2024, 03:38:50 PM »
What's the problem with an AR-15? It's just a rifle.
Nothing, but it's easily altered to behave like a machine gun.
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« Reply #149 on: June 24, 2024, 03:43:10 PM »
Nothing, but it's easily altered to behave like a machine gun.

which would be breaking the law
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« Reply #150 on: June 24, 2024, 03:44:06 PM »
Nothing, but it's easily altered to behave like a machine gun.

Not any more so than any other semi-auto rifle. I don't know who you are getting your information from, but you should probably ignore them going forward. 

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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #151 on: June 24, 2024, 03:45:03 PM »
FFS....we evolve.  The whole world evolves. 

Civil war...caused by slavery that was imported here by the Europeans.  uhhh, WE were Europeans back then, lol And half the country rejected it from the get go.  Actually, more than half rejected it because only a few of the original 13 had slavery.  slavery was legal in all 13 colonies - the south had far more because of their reliance on agriculture America whipped slavery....160 years ago !  Racism...taking a little longer but we're getting there...much slower. 

Women have had the right to vote for over 100 years.  Some states were earlier.  I'm not even sure most even cared about it at the time.  Can you imagine how much trouble it had to be to vote for the average rural American? you're argument was that it was too much trouble to vote.....ffs

Sure, Europe has a lot of the policies and things that you'd like to do here....only after a massive war that killed tens of millions of people and reduced some areas to rubble.  We must have had some really fabulous leaders at the end of WWII because instead of putting in some bullshit reparation's like WWI we helped them rebuild. kind of...but we still have a massive military base in Germany and over 50,000 troops stationed in Japan, so there's that Massively successful.  And we even wrote a lot of the new formed countries constitutions. 
Yes, my idea is simply an evolution.  And yes, I'm nitpicking some of your points.  You seem awfully combative over this.
Aim small, miss small.  No matter how badly a county is governed in my idea, it only adversely affects that county and not an entire state.  So there's another plus. :)
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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #152 on: June 24, 2024, 03:47:29 PM »
Not any more so than any other semi-auto rifle. I don't know who you are getting your information from, but you should probably ignore them going forward.
I know, but you don't find it odd that that one model of gun is so prevalent in mass shootings?

Hell, for all we know, these murderers aren't big gun guys and simply seek out the AR-15 because they've heard of it.  It would be stupid to demonize a gun based on name recognition alone, but if it left a potential mass shooter grasping at straws, maybe give it a try?
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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #153 on: June 24, 2024, 03:47:38 PM »
Love that place.

A couple of years ago, we took some friends there on our way to Columbus. They weren't sure about eating fried bologna, but once they had it, they now want to go back. We will drive down on occasion on a Fri or Sat evening just for the hell of it.


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