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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2024, 09:35:05 AM »
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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2024, 09:37:06 AM »
I doubt anybody today in the US gets arrested for possession of smallish amounts of MJ.

Certainly not Federal.  The Feds probably tack on charges if some dude has a lot of coke and MJ in his vehicle etc.

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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2024, 09:41:30 AM »
and fewer folks get upset over policies if they're living amongst their own

if ya want an abortion, just move to the right place
if ya want to smoke pot legally, just move
if ya want to carry a handgun around, move to Florida
I could do that in Illinois. They have concealed carry, but they made it very hard to do.

Florida now has Constitutional carry, which I don't care for. Everyone should have proper training to carry. The only thing good about my Florida conceal permit is that I don't have to wait 5 days to buy a gun here.

Florida does not permit open carry, by the way.
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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2024, 10:17:35 AM »
Pot is illegal everywhere in the US, on paper anyway.


except in Texas you get written a ticket instead of going to prison
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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2024, 10:32:08 AM »
The idea of Federalism at the county or municipal level can and absolutely does exist.  Laws vary, and probably more importantly, enforcement varies.  I deliberately moved out of Austin and into my suburb city in part because I vastly prefer the way laws are written and enforced outside of the city.  Austin proper has become an absolute nut house, and stupid voters keep on voting in mayors and council members that only make things worse.

I voted with my feet, and you can too.
I think the point OAM is making is that it becomes increasingly difficult to vote with your feet when tons of power decisions that affect you occur in state legislatures and an order of magnitude MORE happen in Congress. 

I could feasibly live in LA, Orange, San Diego, Riverside counties, or even a small sliver of San Bernardino, and still work in the same job I work today--especially with WFH several days a week. Traffic might suck, but I could swing it. But I can't work where I do and escape Sacramento. And even if I got my company to make me a fully remote worker where I could escape Sacramento, I still can't escape DC. 

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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2024, 10:41:38 AM »
I think the point OAM is making is that it becomes increasingly difficult to vote with your feet when tons of power decisions that affect you occur in state legislatures and an order of magnitude MORE happen in Congress.

I could feasibly live in LA, Orange, San Diego, Riverside counties, or even a small sliver of San Bernardino, and still work in the same job I work today--especially with WFH several days a week. Traffic might suck, but I could swing it. But I can't work where I do and escape Sacramento. And even if I got my company to make me a fully remote worker where I could escape Sacramento, I still can't escape DC.
I'm agreeing with this, but I'm also saying there's a solution, the same solution you've suggested-- push the laws and decisions that most  affect our daily lives down to the lowest possible level of government, remove as much of that power from the national government or even state government as possible.

And I'm also responding to lh320's apparent concerns that county/municipal governance of important issues can't be managed.  I'm disagreeing with that and using my own life and choices as an example.  Despite national and state laws being identical between Austin and my suburb city, the day to day business of living is a very different experience.

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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2024, 10:49:10 AM »
How do you rank the state capitals?

Not based on politics, but just as places.
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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2024, 10:50:21 AM »
I think the point OAM is making is that it becomes increasingly difficult to vote with your feet when tons of power decisions that affect you occur in state legislatures and an order of magnitude MORE happen in Congress.

I could feasibly live in LA, Orange, San Diego, Riverside counties, or even a small sliver of San Bernardino, and still work in the same job I work today--especially with WFH several days a week. Traffic might suck, but I could swing it. But I can't work where I do and escape Sacramento. And even if I got my company to make me a fully remote worker where I could escape Sacramento, I still can't escape DC.
Sure you can. You can move to another country.  I cant think of a state law in Texas that makes me want to escape.  Now California is another matter. So many weird laws exist in California that yes I would consider moving from there.

But rather then trying to hide from a state law why not change the state governing body.  Its called democracy
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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2024, 10:51:28 AM »
How do you rank the state capitals?

Not based on politics, but just as places.
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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2024, 10:57:16 AM »
How do you rank the state capitals?

Not based on politics, but just as places.
The Wisconsin capitol is beautiful, as is Madison.

But I could not live there. 
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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2024, 10:57:47 AM »
Sure you can. You can move to another country.  I cant think of a state law in Texas that makes me want to escape.  Now California is another matter. So many weird laws exist in California that yes I would consider moving from there.

But rather then trying to hide from a state law why not change the state governing body.  Its called democracy
Sure, this is fine.  But when it doesn't work because the majority of people in your community disagree with you and vote in a different manner, then you have the option to move locations and vote with your feet.

I'd love to be able to "fix" Austin but the idiotic voters in that city have proven they care more about virtue-signaling by building $11 million foot bridges and $100 million bike lanes and $1 billion dollar light rail trains that NOBODY ever uses, and they don't care at all for voting for lawmakers and policies that would take care of basic infrastructure and law enforcement.  After 30 years of living with that lunacy, I realized I was never going to change them but it was super-easy to move to a better community.

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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2024, 11:00:24 AM »
I love Austin great food great entertainment
But don't move here.

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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #40 on: June 21, 2024, 11:01:55 AM »
Sure, this is fine.  But when it doesn't work because the majority of people in your community disagree with you and vote in a different manner, then you have the option to move locations and vote with your feet.

I'd love to be able to "fix" Austin but the idiotic voters in that city have proven they care more about virtue-signaling by building $11 million foot bridges and $100 million bike lanes and $1 billion dollar light rail trains that NOBODY ever uses, and they don't care at all for voting for lawmakers and policies that would take care of basic infrastructure and law enforcement.  After 30 years of living with that lunacy, I realized I was never going to change them but it was super-easy to move to a better community.
Not saying I would live there.  I like strong police forces. Sometimes voters will rise up when theve had enough crap hurled at them. It has happened.
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Re: The 'United' States of America
« Reply #41 on: June 21, 2024, 11:06:31 AM »
The main reason why I moved to Northwest Houston was to escape the HISD school district

I moved into the Cy Fair school district which is very good.  So in a way I voted with my feet also.
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