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Topic: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness

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Mdot21

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Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness
« Reply #56 on: November 24, 2017, 07:51:16 PM »
I think he's a good, not great coach.  I didn't think he'd win big at Arkansas, but I thought he'd be a little better than this.
Ok, I'm with you on that. I think he can be good in the right situation. Had the right situation at Wisconsin and the fool walked away from a winning formula. Definitely not a great coach though. I didn't think he'd win big at Arkansas, but I didn't think he'd be this bad either.

You can win at Arkansas. It's a tough job, but a great coach can win there. Bobby Petrino is a scum bag, but he's a great coach. He did a hell of a job at Arkansas and the SEC was a lot tougher when he was there compared to when BERT stumbled into it.

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Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness
« Reply #57 on: November 24, 2017, 07:56:21 PM »
Riley to UNL has been the biggest bust in my opinion

horrible in year 3

it's been at least 56 years since things were this bad in Lincoln
Nah. Have to disagree. Riley never had any amount of real success anywhere he'd been. He was a .500 coach in the CFL and he was absolutely horrific in the NFL winning an impressive 29% of his games in 3 years with the San Diego Chargers.

His entire claim to fame was being at Oregon State for 14 years and what- having a 10 win season once? He was pretty mediocre at Oregon State. Not like he ever built them into what Oregon accomplished under Belotti/Chip.

Expectations were so low with Nebraska hiring Riley, it's hard for me to really consider it a bust. It was just an absolutely terrible hire from the jump.

BERT was a far bigger coaching bust, as was RichRod. Both of those guys had really been on the map and done some big things at Wisconsin and WVU respectively.
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Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness
« Reply #58 on: November 24, 2017, 07:59:05 PM »
Since Jen Bielema tweeted #karma in September 2013 after Wisconsin’s controversial loss at Arizona State; Wisconsin is 50-12, Arkansas is 26-34.Edit I see ELA beat me to it but it's worth mentioning twice
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Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness
« Reply #59 on: November 24, 2017, 08:00:58 PM »


Expectations were so low with Nebraska hiring Riley, it's hard for me to really consider it a bust. It was just an absolutely terrible hire from the jump.


everyone expected a bit more than the worst team in 55 seasons
much less horrible than BERT or RichRod
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Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness
« Reply #60 on: November 24, 2017, 08:04:48 PM »
Winless in 2015. Frost took over last year and went 6-7 last year. Now this.

He's a great coach. UNL would be lucky to get him.
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Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness
« Reply #61 on: November 24, 2017, 08:05:25 PM »
I'd be all in for UW closing out versus UNL on Black Friday and moving Minny back to October, as was the long tradition. Minny and Iowa close out, which was also the long tradition.

The winner gets to wear all RED the following season.

Loser wears all white.

Winner is also granted the Big Red title.
I'm all in
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Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness
« Reply #62 on: November 24, 2017, 08:18:15 PM »
everyone expected a bit more than the worst team in 55 seasons
much less horrible than BERT or RichRod
have to disagree.

Riley had never really accomplished anything in his long and under-whelming coaching career. Him being this bad really isn't that big of a surprise. He really hadn't ever done anything as a coach that'd make you think he'd succeed there.

BERT had won 3 B1G Championships, had a 12-1 season and had 3 more 10+ win seasons at Wisconsin. The guy was there 7 years. 4 of those 7 years he had double digit wins. Riley had been a head coach for 20+ years. He had a 10 or more win season exactly once. BERT was considered a home run hire by a lot just because of the amount of success he had in 7 short years.

RichRod had 3 straight top 10 finishes in the final poll his last 3 years at WVU, beat the SEC Champs in a BCS Bowl in 2005, and was a play away from finishing 2007 ranked #2 and playing for the National Title. He had built WVU into a power and was seen as an offensive "genius" and he turned down the Alabama job the year before. He was a really hot commodity. He came into Michigan and immediately delivered Michigan it's lowest win total in a season since 1962 when they won 2 games, and their worst season since 1967 when they went 4-6. From 1968-2007, Michigan hadn't had a single losing season. The worst seasons they had in that 41 year span was going 6-6 in 1984 and 7-5 in 2005- the other 39 seasons from 1968-2007 was at least 8 wins- and 19 of those 39 seasons they had 10 or more wins. RichRod also snapped what was at the time the longest bowl streak in FBS history and produced 3-9, 5-7, and 7-6 in 3 seasons.
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Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness
« Reply #63 on: November 24, 2017, 08:28:27 PM »

https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/934204373105893376
There aren’t many people I’d be happy about getting fired, but this is sure one of them.

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Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness
« Reply #64 on: November 24, 2017, 08:37:06 PM »
I'd fire Jen from her twitter account
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Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness
« Reply #65 on: November 24, 2017, 08:54:09 PM »
Ohio State gets a road win over Michigan on the ice, 3-2. 
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Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness
« Reply #66 on: November 24, 2017, 09:01:57 PM »
Don Nehlan built WVU. Rich Rod took it over. Sounds familiar. 
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Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness
« Reply #67 on: November 24, 2017, 09:04:27 PM »
There aren’t many people I’d be happy about getting fired, but this is sure one of them.
He's actually a very nice man. I enjoyed my brief interactions with him, much more so than I did with King Barry.

Pat Richter was great to talk to as well. I really like him.
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Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness
« Reply #68 on: November 24, 2017, 09:22:35 PM »
have to disagree.

Riley had never really accomplished anything in his long and under-whelming coaching career. Him being this bad really isn't that big of a surprise. He really hadn't ever done anything as a coach that'd make you think he'd succeed there.

BERT had won 3 B1G Championships, had a 12-1 season and had 3 more 10+ win seasons at Wisconsin. The guy was there 7 years. 4 of those 7 years he had double digit wins. Riley had been a head coach for 20+ years. He had a 10 or more win season exactly once. BERT was considered a home run hire by a lot just because of the amount of success he had in 7 short years.

RichRod had 3 straight top 10 finishes in the final poll his last 3 years at WVU, beat the SEC Champs in a BCS Bowl in 2005, and was a play away from finishing 2007 ranked #2 and playing for the National Title. He had built WVU into a power and was seen as an offensive "genius" and he turned down the Alabama job the year before. He was a really hot commodity. He came into Michigan and immediately delivered Michigan it's lowest win total in a season since 1962 when they won 2 games, and their worst season since 1967 when they went 4-6. From 1968-2007, Michigan hadn't had a single losing season. The worst seasons they had in that 41 year span was going 6-6 in 1984 and 7-5 in 2005- the other 39 seasons from 1968-2007 was at least 8 wins- and 19 of those 39 seasons they had 10 or more wins. RichRod also snapped what was at the time the longest bowl streak in FBS history and produced 3-9, 5-7, and 7-6 in 3 seasons.
Yeah, RR didn't work out, but any issue with the hire is revisionist history.  I thought it was a grand slam hire at the time.

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Re: Thanksgiving Weekend Gravy Boat of Consciousness
« Reply #69 on: November 24, 2017, 09:27:29 PM »
I totally expected Pitt to lose to UNC 2 weeks ago. I also was pretty sure they'd win today. I don't know what this means. 

 

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