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I love this coming from an OSU fan whose shiny helmet has already tilted the playing field HEAVILY in your team's favor...

What, are you worried this'll dilute the massive advantage OSU already enjoys? Can't have that!

Sounds like old money complaining about new money.

Crybaby helmet fans are the worst.

I really think the NCAA should have been proactive and created a program that would have leveled the playing field with regards to NIL

now what needs to happen is the top schools that have been paying players for years need to be grouped and removed from college football and turned into a semi pro football league.  this would appease all people on all sides of the NIL  

then put the rests of the schools together with balanced conferences and a program for NIL for those places that is equitable. basically an over haul of the whole NCAA athletic programs

if you think boosters will police themselves you are delusional.  this gets way worst before anything ever gets better.  Pandora's box has been opened and no one can close it  a major change will need to be taken

and yes this has only been 8 months and can you say things are getting better?  slowing down?  just look at Texas's program and they will not be the last to do this just the first

Semi Pro is where it is at  and the NFL can pay those top universities for the facilities as the players wont be going to school  why should they, they are already getting paid more than the professors.  the Universities will be making big money form the NFL so that will help pay for the non-rev sports

I really think the NCAA should have been proactive and created a program that would have leveled the playing field with regards to NIL

now what needs to happen is the top schools that have been paying players for years need to be grouped and removed from college football and turned into a semi pro football league.  this would appease all people on all sides of the NIL 

then put the rests of the schools together with balanced conferences and a program for NIL for those places that is equitable. basically an over haul of the whole NCAA athletic programs

if you think boosters will police themselves you are delusional.  this gets way worst before anything ever gets better.  Pandora's box has been opened and no one can close it  a major change will need to be taken

and yes this has only been 8 months and can you say things are getting better?  slowing down?  just look at Texas's program and they will not be the last to do this just the first

Semi Pro is where it is at  and the NFL can pay those top universities for the facilities as the players wont be going to school  why should they, they are already getting paid more than the professors.  the Universities will be making big money form the NFL so that will help pay for the non-rev sports

It sounds like you believe the NCAA has any say in this?  They don't.  They fought it tooth and nail, they fought it to the Supreme Court, but ultimately the state laws will always supersede anything the NCAA could ever attempt to implement.

when did texas become new money?

I didn't think Nubbz was necessarily complaining about Texas per se... 

I just found it odd that he's saying that this'll "screw everything up to hell and back" and "fair play will be a thing of the past."

There's no such thing as fair play, as the fans of non-helmets know. There are the have-lots (helmets), the have-a-littles (other P5), and the have-nots (G5). 

Helmets benefit from their shiny helmet, and money isn't a factor. Helmets HATE the idea that money can become a factor, because hell, anyone can get some money together. They used to compete with other helmets for recruits--now they have to fend off every program with a few boosters that have more millions than sense. It's not FAIR that suddenly they have to compete fairly on a different playing field!

My only issue with this is that it's not NIL at all. It's pay-for-play via a different metric.

The idea was that players could profit off their name, image, and/or likeness. I.e. if they wanted to appear in a commercial, they could and be compensated. If EA Sports wanted to use their name and stats in a video game, they could do so and the player would be compensated for it. 

DJ at Clemson actually got an NIL deal. He appeared in Dr Pepper commercials. 

Seems that many of these deals are just boosters paying players to play. They're not actually capitalizing in any way on that name, image, or likeness, they're just paying them to play for their team. 

Granted, I don't know how you regulate this to discern any difference. I suppose to a booster, paying Quinn Ewers to play for your team IS capitalizing on his name, image, or likeness--even if all he gets is an autographed jersey and the ability to brag to his booster buddies that he got Quinn Ewers on campus. 

But it seems far outside of what the spirit of NIL really was intended to be.  

been there. gotta get most of the people out of the kitchen and let the chef work. and find a good chef. was tough at bama, i suspect will be equally if not more tough at texas.

Well lucking into hiring a "good chef" who turned out to be The Greatest Of All Time, the golderned Joël Robuchon of college football, doesn't hurt, of course.

My only issue with this is that it's not NIL at all. It's pay-for-play via a different metric.

The idea was that players could profit off their name, image, and/or likeness. I.e. if they wanted to appear in a commercial, they could and be compensated. If EA Sports wanted to use their name and stats in a video game, they could do so and the player would be compensated for it.

DJ at Clemson actually got an NIL deal. He appeared in Dr Pepper commercials.

Seems that many of these deals are just boosters paying players to play. They're not actually capitalizing in any way on that name, image, or likeness, they're just paying them to play for their team.

Granted, I don't know how you regulate this to discern any difference. I suppose to a booster, paying Quinn Ewers to play for your team IS capitalizing on his name, image, or likeness--even if all he gets is an autographed jersey and the ability to brag to his booster buddies that he got Quinn Ewers on campus.

But it seems far outside of what the spirit of NIL really was intended to be. 

I think one problem is that people are assigning any kind of intended "Spirit of the Law" to NIL in the first place.  The state legislatures weren't trying to establish an egalitarian society where all student athletes live in a land of peace and opportunity.  They were simply trying to break the amateur paradigm and get the athletes paid.  NIL was something they actually had the authority and jurisdiction to force and legislate into existence, and they did so.  It was low-hanging fruit.  But some of the other current and ongoing proposals for state laws also include taking measures to force the academic institutions to allow and engage in direct pay-for-play.  That's their next step, the next domino targeted in their design.  The intention was always to eliminate the amateur model completely.

So the only "Spirit of the Law" was to turn college athletics into professional athletics.  And here we are.

I think one problem is that people are assigning any kind of intended "Spirit of the Law" to NIL in the first place.  The state legislatures weren't trying to establish an egalitarian society where all student athletes live in a land of peace and opportunity.  They were simply trying to break the amateur paradigm and get the athletes paid.  NIL was something they actually had the authority and jurisdiction to force and legislate into existence, and they did so.  It was low-hanging fruit.  But some of the other current and ongoing proposals for state laws also include taking measures to force the academic institutions to allow and engage in direct pay-for-play.  That's their next step, the next domino targeted in their design.  The intention was always to eliminate the amateur model completely.

So the only "Spirit of the Law" was to turn college athletics into professional athletics.  And here we are.

There were multiple complaints. 

One of the key ones is that if a non-athlete student also happened to be a musician, even if the student was enrolled on scholarship in a university's music program, nothing stopped that student from playing paid gigs on the side. Or if a non-athlete student had a prominent side gig running a social media influencer account, or producing a popular podcast, etc, nothing stopped them from profiting from that side gig. 

But there was a situation where a football player had a podcast (IIRC) and had to choose between his podcast on the side and continuing to play football, because it was deemed that he was profiting off his athletic prowess. That was a major double standard. 

Beyond that there was the EA sports issue, which destroyed a popular video game needlessly, and all that would be necessary to keep it would be to actually let the players earn money for consenting to their NIL to be used in the game. There's the idea that stars would actually be able to do endorsements or other things on the side. Essentially it's allowing them to profit from being themselves, without actually making them employees of the university. 

None of these fundamentally change the student-athlete paradigm, whereas pay-for-play does. At that point they're employees, and that's a whole different hornet's nest.