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Topic: Texas and OU to where?!?!

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bayareabadger

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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #490 on: August 02, 2021, 12:17:08 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 01, 2021, 09:00:02 AM
But it could end up killing some games that have remained annual.  Going from annual, to 2/4 years, is exactly what happened to the NU-OU rivalry, and that ended up having a lot to do with Nebraska's dissatisfaction with the B12 and ultimate defection.
I mean, isn’t that kind of or for the course these days? Games are rivalries until they’re not. And the point of the pod setup is to retain a few good rivalries and rotate the rest.

Folks have gamed out sample versions for the SEC and a few other leagues. Usually you keep three annual games. If a team is your No. 4 annual rival, is it that worth holding onto?

(the wonky part is that schedules are unbalanced and the standings for a title game don’t look so clean. Ironically, the projection I saw didn’t include the Big 12 because there was no need with a true round robin)
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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #491 on: August 02, 2021, 12:18:08 AM »
Well us former Big 12ers always refer to the state schools backwards from their official names. CU, University of Colorado, KU, university of Kansas.  NU, university of Nebraska. And last but not least t.u. University of Texas. ;)
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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #492 on: August 02, 2021, 08:49:06 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on August 02, 2021, 12:17:08 AM
I mean, isn’t that kind of or for the course these days? Games are rivalries until they’re not. And the point of the pod setup is to retain a few good rivalries and rotate the rest.

Folks have gamed out sample versions for the SEC and a few other leagues. Usually you keep three annual games. If a team is your No. 4 annual rival, is it that worth holding onto?

(the wonky part is that schedules are unbalanced and the standings for a title game don’t look so clean. Ironically, the projection I saw didn’t include the Big 12 because there was no need with a true round robin)
why only have 3 annual games?  WTF?

why not play the same 6 or 7 or 8 teams annually?  develop rivalries and history with those 8 teams.  why try to play all the teams in a 16 team conference and there fore only play 3 annually?
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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #493 on: August 02, 2021, 10:03:11 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 02, 2021, 08:49:06 AM
why only have 3 annual games?  WTF?

why not play the same 6 or 7 or 8 teams annually?  develop rivalries and history with those 8 teams.  why try to play all the teams in a 16 team conference and there fore only play 3 annually?
Agreed. A 16 team conference is more like two 8 team conferences. View games with the other division as you would OOC games. Win your division and play one of them every year. :)
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« Reply #494 on: August 02, 2021, 10:23:14 AM »
Two Divisions. Nine or ten conference games. One permanent cross-over and one or two rotating. Forget the four subdivisions. And they are called subdivisions and not pods.

And the NCAA Bylaw with four teams in a subdivision was obviously written to cover a conference reducing down to 8 teams and not a conference expanding to 16 teams. But it is what it is. Just as was the original rule intended only for 1AA. Kramer took the rule and used it to expand the SEC because the rule didn't say he could not do so.
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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #495 on: August 02, 2021, 10:29:38 AM »
This is how the B1G and Pac could come to an arrangement while technically being two conferences.  The SEC would be roughly two conferences as well, maybe three if they collude with the ACC.

We'd then have two super conferences with tie ins and "conferences" similar to what we have today, except common revenue deals.  And it might be "OK".  I wouldn't mind seeing more B1G Pac games.  Of course it could mean fewer "intersuperconference" games.
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« Reply #496 on: August 02, 2021, 10:38:41 AM »
Quote from: ALA2262 on August 02, 2021, 10:23:14 AM
Two Divisions. Nine or ten conference games. One permanent cross-over and one or two rotating. Forget the four subdivisions. And they are called subdivisions and not pods.

And the NCAA Bylaw with four teams in a subdivision was obviously written to cover a conference reducing down to 8 teams and not a conference expanding to 16 teams. But it is what it is.
thank you!
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« Reply #497 on: August 05, 2021, 10:51:41 AM »
It is clear that the decision made by both Texas and Oklahoma to leave the Big 12 in favor of the SEC has ruffled more than just a few feathers. Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby has certainly not taken the news lying down, threatening legal action toward ESPN, which he believes is attempting to dissolve the league by matching the remaining eight schools with other conferences.

Earlier this week, numerous Texas state legislators went on the offensive, unhappy with how the Longhorns in particular handled the matter. Now it appears the federal government may soon enter fray regarding the Big 12 and future conference realignment.

U.S. senator Roger Marshall, a Kansas Republican, has drafted a letter to the U.S. Attorney General asking for the Department of Justice to launch a formal investigation into ESPN, according to The Wichita Eagle.


“I write today to ask that the DOJ investigate ESPN’s role in the potential destruction of the Big 12 Conference,” Marshall wrote, according to a copy of the letter obtained by The Eagle, “and if any anti-competitive or illegal behavior occurred relating to manipulating the conference change or ESPN’s contractual television rights.”
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« Reply #498 on: August 05, 2021, 10:57:54 AM »
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« Reply #499 on: August 05, 2021, 01:40:08 PM »
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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #500 on: August 05, 2021, 06:44:12 PM »
Yup, made me laugh for sure.  She made an absolute fool of herself and the honorable gentleman from Houston just kept egging her on to dig herself deeper and deeper.  It was cute.
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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #501 on: August 05, 2021, 07:46:32 PM »
Boy, you guys are like stuck in traditional thinking.
I have some bad news for you.....progress is undefeated. 
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Why play the other teams in your conference?  BECAUSE THEY'RE IN YOUR CONFERENCE!!
The other bad news for you guys is $$$.  A 4 sub-division SEC will yield 4 sub-division champions and an "SEC Playoff" of 4 teams.  The champion will always wind up the #1 seed in the CFP rankings.  All 4 will likely get a bye or host in a 12-team playoff. 
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The SEC invented the conference championship game for $$$ and now it's going to invent the intra-conference playoff to crown its champion for even more $$$. 

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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #502 on: August 05, 2021, 07:53:46 PM »
Copying Canadian CFB's postseason format isn't inventing squat. 
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Re: Texas and OU to where?!?!
« Reply #503 on: August 05, 2021, 11:00:26 PM »
Are you and the other 7 people with that knowledge proud of yourselves?  Cool.  Let's alter 'invent' to 'introduce' to the American fan.  Now you can get over the semantics and address the IDEA.
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