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FearlessF · « **Reply #56 on:** March 20, 2020, 10:34:44 AM »

Quote from: ALA2262 on March 19, 2020, 08:45:16 PM

Agreed, but Houlgate had a reason for his ranking. He included Bowl results when no other ranking services did so. Bama's win over aTm in the Cotton Bowl was most impressive because aTm had lost only two games in three years.

well then, I'm claiming MNC for the Huskers in 1983 and 1993, cause I'm not going to include bowl results when all other ranking services did so.

ALA2262 · « **Reply #57 on:** March 20, 2020, 11:58:29 AM »

Harry Gilmer. Still in the Alabama record book for rushing and TDs. Finished 5th in Heisman voting in 1945 and 1947.

Holds a Bama rushing record that will never be broken.

YARDS PER RUSH GAME
(Minimum 5-9 attempts)
Avg. (att-yds-td) Player ........................Opponent ............................Date
36.0 (6-216-2) Harry Gilmer ................at Kentucky ........................ Nov. 3, 1945

Ranks 5th in Career TDs ahead of Shaun Alexander, Mark Ingram, and Derrick Henry.

52 Harry Gilmer (2 PR, 1 KOR, 1 IR, 19 rush, 29 pass) ....................1944-47

FearlessF · « **Reply #58 on:** March 20, 2020, 12:15:42 PM »

well, it was Kentucky

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #59 on:** March 20, 2020, 12:30:57 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on March 20, 2020, 08:14:41 AM

Yeah, this isn't correct, as noted.

It's a generalization, we all know there are exceptions. I don't know why this caveat is always needed....

FearlessF · « **Reply #60 on:** March 20, 2020, 12:34:57 PM »

it's not ALWAYS needed, we all know there are exceptions

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #61 on:** March 20, 2020, 12:35:10 PM »

Any services that included bowls before bowls really counted should be ignored. Players had an entirely different mindset back then. I'm sure the coaches built it up to get them motivated, but if your season is over and you're enjoying a trip to a warm climate for New Year's, you're not playing the same as if you still have a shot at the national championship. Their season was over, they were having fun.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #62 on:** March 20, 2020, 12:37:40 PM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on March 20, 2020, 12:30:57 PM

It's a generalization, we all know there are exceptions. I don't know why this caveat is always needed....

It's a rather important exception, to some, and part of the UCMJ that is taught from Day One, especially this part.

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #63 on:** March 20, 2020, 12:40:37 PM »

Yeah, but people tend to dwell on the exceptions, ignoring the 97% of the reality of the thing. I choose to dwell on the 97%. Sue me.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #64 on:** March 20, 2020, 12:41:41 PM »

Not all people do, and it's closer to 98.6%.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #65 on:** March 22, 2020, 10:14:04 AM »

https://tiptop25.com/champ1946.html

Pictured above is the defining play of 1946's "Game of the Century": Notre Dame's Bill Gompers turning the corner on 4th down and heading for Army's goal line. But alas, he didn't make it. He didn't even reach the 2 yard line for a first down, and this game saw no other serious scoring threats, ending in a 0-0 stalemate.

Never before had a game been hyped as much as this meeting of #1 Army and #2 Notre Dame. Other games had been called "Game of the Century" in the past, but this was the first to be widely described as such by the press nationwide before the game. Army was the 2-time defending national champion, coming in on a 25 game winning streak. They had beaten Notre Dame 59-0 and 48-0 the previous 2 years, but Notre Dame's coach and players were back from the war, and when last they were on campus, Notre Dame had won the 1943 mythical national championship (MNC).

This game featured 3 Heisman Trophy winners, 3 Outland Trophy winners, and 10 Hall of Famers, not counting the Hall of Fame coaches on each side. Notre Dame claims MNCs for 1943, 1946, 1947, and 1949, and Army claims MNCs for 1944, 1945, and 1946. This was a true clash of the titans, an intersection of 2 of the greatest runs in college football history: Army going 27-0-1 1944-1946 and Notre Dame going 36-0-2 1946-1949.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #66 on:** March 22, 2020, 10:18:27 AM »

Georgia was lost in the all-engulfing shadows cast by Notre Dame and Army this season, but they went 11-0, played 4 top 25 caliber teams, and no one came within a touchdown of them. They had won their first MNC in 1942, and I covered their Hall of Fame coach, Wally Butts, in that national championship article.

Georgia had finished 9-2 and #13 in 1945, and 13 players, including their best, returned this season. They picked up 15 new players, mostly war veterans, and they also added 8 war veterans who had played for Georgia before. 5 players on this team had played for Georgia's 1942 MNC team, including star halfback Charley Trippi (pictured at left).

Trippi was a consensus All American this season and won the Maxwell Award. He played at Georgia in 1942, 1945, and 1946. He was MVP of the 1943 Rose Bowl, and in the 4th quarter of the Oil Bowl to cap the 1945 season, Trippi threw a touchdown pass and scored on a 68 yard run to beat Tulsa 20-6. In the NFL, he was a 3-time All-Pro, and he is enshrined in both the college and pro Halls of Fame. He won the NFL championship in 1947 with the Chicago Cardinals, scoring touchdowns on a 44 yard run and a 75 yard punt return in a 28-21 victory over the Eagles. He is the only pro Hall of Famer with 1000 yards receiving, 1000 passing, and 1000 rushing.

Quarterback John Rauch is also in the Hall of Fame. He played 1945-1948, and was a nonconsensus AA in 1948. He broke the school record with 4044 yards career passing. Later he went 40-28-2 as a pro football coach.

End Joe Tereshinski played the same years Charley Trippi did, 1942, 1945, and 1946, so he was also on 2 teams Georgia claims MNCs for. He went on to an 8 year career in the pros, and he is the patriarch of 3 generations of Georgia football players. End Dan Edwards went on to a 7-year pro career, and guard Herb St. John was All SEC for 4 seasons.

The Dawgs do NOT claim an NC for this season. They do claim 1942.

Most Georgia fans are familiar with the main two National Championships. 1980 and 1942 are the only titles that Georgia boasts. They fly flags for both championships at Sanford Stadium and the indoor practice facility has both years planted firmly on one of the walls facing the field.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #67 on:** March 22, 2020, 10:25:06 AM »

This "Game of the Century" may not have been among the greatest games ever played, but it was arguably the greatest matchup in college football history. As I noted earlier, it was a collision of 2 of the greatest runs ever, Army's 27-0-1 1944-1946 and Notre Dame's 36-0-2 1946-1949, and the coaches and talent on the field are now legends. Army had scored 0 points in their previous 3 games against a Leahy-coached Notre Dame, 1941-1943, and this game would add to that streak. $5 tickets were going for $250, and Yankee Stadium was filled with 74,000 fans. The game was televised in New York, Philadelphia, and Washington, DC.

1946 Army-Navy football game

Cincydawg · « **Reply #68 on:** March 22, 2020, 10:28:39 AM »

UNC scored a touchdown in a bid to make the final score closer, but the refs erased it on a bizarre call. A UNC receiver caught a touchdown pass in the end zone, and the Georgia defensive back, who was behind him, hit him and knocked him unconscious. The receiver was ridiculously called for offensive pass interference, and film of the play makes one wonder if the refs even saw the play at all. The final score thus remained 20-10.

UNC had 17 first downs to 12 for Georgia, and they slightly outgained Georgia 265 yards to 256, but UNC also turned the ball over 2 times, Georgia only once. UNC's Charlie Justice was held to just 37 yards rushing. Georgia's Charley Trippi and John Rauch both played all 60 minutes, the last players to do so in the Sugar Bowl. UNC finished 8-2-1, and I have them ranked #11 for 1946.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #69 on:** March 22, 2020, 12:11:53 PM »

I was thinking if that was a house, it would be pretty large.

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