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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Talk of Eliminating Divisions
« Reply #70 on: December 10, 2018, 11:23:45 AM »
I was okay with the initial fixed crossovers, as they were at least based upon a modicum of logic. 

The revamped ones are unimpressive.
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Re: Talk of Eliminating Divisions
« Reply #71 on: December 10, 2018, 11:28:23 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on December 07, 2018, 09:11:44 PM
I don't see it as NFL lite.  I'm not suggesting fines for kids who wear their socks differently.  
The problem with the NFL is that 12/32 teams get into the playoffs.  The NBA is worse, and everybody knows it, because the playoffs wind up being an additional season tacked on at the end.  
Getting a little socialist with the schedules would merely test the advantages of the helmet-type teams.  The status quo in college football relies on an underclass of schools relegated to be the chum for the P5.  Human history has taught us that underlings don't like their role and will rebel eventually.
The NHL is considering adding 2 single game wildcard games for the #7 and #8 seeds on each side, meaning 20 teams make the playoffs.  Their argument is that the league has gone from 20 to 32 teams, but the playoffs have remained at 16.  Rather than consider that they now have a more appropriate proportion of teams make the playoffs, their argument is expand the playoffs.  If it were the NBA I wouldn't really care, because you almost never see 1-8 or 2-7 upsets, so it doesn't really matter who fills those slots, but the NHL playoffs are always wide open.
I remember when there was a real push back in like 2009 or 2010 to go to 96 or 128 for the NCAA basketball tourney, the coaches argued based on how many more teams there were now than when 64 was set, ignoring the fact that all of that expansion was on the bottom end, and there was no large expansion of the viable national championship conferences.  Fortunately they settled on 68, and honestly I could live without those First Four games.
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Re: Talk of Eliminating Divisions
« Reply #72 on: December 10, 2018, 11:34:44 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 10, 2018, 11:23:45 AM
I was okay with the initial fixed crossovers, as they were at least based upon a modicum of logic.

The revamped ones are unimpressive.
Can you post a link to them please? I missed this.
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Re: Talk of Eliminating Divisions
« Reply #73 on: December 10, 2018, 11:36:06 AM »
Nba and Nhl only put about 50% of their teams into the playoffs. That's nuthin'

The CFL puts 2/3 of their league into the playoffs. Used to be 3/4 when Ottawa was between teams. 
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Re: Talk of Eliminating Divisions
« Reply #74 on: December 10, 2018, 11:38:19 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 10, 2018, 11:34:44 AM
Can you post a link to them please? I missed this.
Post a link to what? 
If you meant the original fixed crossovers, I have them committed to memory. 
You'd have to extrapolate the new ones from the schedules, as I don't have a link handy.
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Re: Talk of Eliminating Divisions
« Reply #75 on: December 10, 2018, 11:49:28 AM »
Gotcha. I just looked and it's Ohio State for Wisconsin.
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Re: Talk of Eliminating Divisions
« Reply #76 on: December 10, 2018, 12:54:09 PM »
Yes it is. Also Nebraska-Michigan. 

Don't know the rest. Indiana-Purdue, obviously.
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Re: Talk of Eliminating Divisions
« Reply #77 on: December 10, 2018, 02:06:52 PM »
https://www.google.com/amp/btn.com/2018/08/29/big-ten-releases-2022-2025-conference-football-schedules/amp/

Here’s a look at the fixed crossovers from 2022-2025

Pur-Indy
ILL-PSU
Iowa-Rut
NW-MD
Neb-Mich
Minn-MSU
Wisc-OSU


« Last Edit: December 10, 2018, 02:11:49 PM by LittlePig »
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Re: Talk of Eliminating Divisions
« Reply #78 on: December 10, 2018, 02:33:07 PM »
They shoulda gave PSU to Iowa. 
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Re: Talk of Eliminating Divisions
« Reply #79 on: December 10, 2018, 03:17:15 PM »
Iowa has a pass for sure..
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Re: Talk of Eliminating Divisions
« Reply #80 on: December 10, 2018, 03:19:23 PM »
Jumping in late....  I'm for keeping divisions.  I like them better.    I'm mentioned my MSU proposal before.   I would be ok with the BIG proposing rotations for divisions.  Take the previous 5 years and rank the teams 1-14 based upon conference wins.   Then make the divisions as even as possible and readjust in 5.    I'd rather see something like that then no divisions and some breaking ties methodology for choosing the best 2.
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Re: Talk of Eliminating Divisions
« Reply #81 on: December 10, 2018, 04:03:07 PM »
Quote from: Entropy on December 10, 2018, 03:19:23 PM
I'd rather see something like that then no divisions and some breaking ties methodology for choosing the best 2.
I read this somewhere else... 

The tie-breaking committee will be a blue ribbon panel consisting of the Michigan AD, the OSU AD, Jim Delany and the head of Fox Sports.

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Re: Talk of Eliminating Divisions
« Reply #82 on: December 10, 2018, 04:13:32 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 10, 2018, 02:33:07 PM
They shoulda gave PSU to Iowa.
They did under the good set of fixed crossovers that we currently are in the midst of a six year run of. 
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Re: Talk of Eliminating Divisions
« Reply #83 on: December 10, 2018, 04:54:48 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 10, 2018, 04:13:32 PM
They did under the good set of fixed crossovers that we currently are in the midst of a six year run of.
I know. I meant MSU, but PSU came out instead. Then give PSU to NU.
I see what they did though. Iowa fans will pack the Rutger stadiette a few times.
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