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Topic: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #952 on: May 23, 2023, 02:32:38 PM »

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« Reply #953 on: May 23, 2023, 03:39:33 PM »
I have 3 of those. Great for the grill.
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« Reply #954 on: May 23, 2023, 11:44:37 PM »
Don't forget a pair of these, endless uses for them and not just in the kitchen.   They clock in at about 18 inches long I think.

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« Reply #955 on: May 24, 2023, 08:17:52 AM »
Don't forget a pair of these, endless uses for them and not just in the kitchen.  They clock in at about 18 inches long I think.

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« Reply #956 on: May 25, 2023, 07:19:15 PM »
Does anyone else here make your own bacon? 

Just cured >10# of pork belly. That'll sit 10-14 days, at which point I can smoke it, then slice, then vacuum seal in smaller portions and toss in the freezer so I have a bunch on hand. 

It's amazing how easy it is, and how much better it is than store-bought. 

And I keep hearing about these "bacon rib" things from LeRoy and Lewis in Austin, and thinking I might need to make that myself (although I didn't source bone-in pork belly)...

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« Reply #957 on: May 25, 2023, 07:37:22 PM »
Does anyone else here make your own bacon?

Just cured >10# of pork belly. That'll sit 10-14 days, at which point I can smoke it, then slice, then vacuum seal in smaller portions and toss in the freezer so I have a bunch on hand.

It's amazing how easy it is, and how much better it is than store-bought.

And I keep hearing about these "bacon rib" things from LeRoy and Lewis in Austin, and thinking I might need to make that myself (although I didn't source bone-in pork belly)...

I haven't had the bacon rib but it's on my list to try. 
Beyond that I'll say that Leroy and Lewis is the best BBQ in Central Texas.  And therefore, the best in the world. :)

The brisket is every bit as good as Franklin and the beef cheek is the absolute best single bite of BBQ I've ever put in my mouth.  The barbacoa is unbelievable as well.  Pulled whole hog is delicious too, but there are lots of places that do that well all over the southeast so I won't say it's better than all of them.  It's certainly comparable, though.

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #958 on: May 25, 2023, 07:39:02 PM »
Oh and as for homemade bacon, I've never done it but color me intrigued.  Got any more specific details on how to do it?  

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« Reply #959 on: May 25, 2023, 07:39:22 PM »
Well, making it myself is the best I can manage until I move to Austin. 

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« Reply #960 on: May 25, 2023, 07:46:15 PM »
Well, making it myself is the best I can manage until I move to Austin.
You are welcome to VISIT Austin and then return to your paradise of a home, any time you like.

So spill the deets on the homemade bacon?  I want to try this.  My boy is now 13 and eats bacon like it's candy, so it might even save me money...

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« Reply #961 on: May 25, 2023, 07:51:21 PM »
Oh and as for homemade bacon, I've never done it but color me intrigued.  Got any more specific details on how to do it? 
Really simple. 

  • Buy pork belly. I find it at Costco as full slabs, usually try to pick the largest they have (>10#). 
  • Because I use a vacuum sealer and gallon bags only fit about 1/3 of a slab, I cut it into 3 roughly equal pieces. 
  • I use this calculator to determine curing: http://www.diggingdogfarm.com/page2.html
  • I mix the cure based on the weight of each 1/3 slab, and usually add fresh cracked black pepper. You can buy curing salt from Amazon super cheap for 1#, and 1# of curing salt will last you decades unless you're producing hundreds of pounds of bacon per year.
  • Slather the cure equally (to the extent you can) around the slabs, vacuum seal them, and put them in the fridge. Flip daily(ish), but it's no big deal if you miss a day or two.
  • Let them sit in the fridge (w/ flipping) 10-14 days. 
  • Put them on a smoker @225 or so until they reach an internal temp of 155-160F. 
  • Remove and chill to cold. (Cold aids in slicing). 
  • Slice to appropriate thickness. This is the hardest part if you don't have a good meat slicer, because doing it by hand with a knife takes decent knife skills. But I do it by hand and it's not like I'm chef-level with a knife. 
  • Vacuum seal and freeze the slices in appropriate portions, then thaw and cook as you normally would. 

There are certainly other things you can do. AmazingRibs has a couple recipes on different flavors you can imbue the bacon with. However, don't pay any attention to the various things AmazingRibs says about how dry cure calculators are horrible and unsafe and that you can ONLY use what they say for a wet cure... If you're curing in a vacuum sealed bag, it's a wet cure even if you don't add any additional liquid. In fact, their calculator if you put in 0 ml of additional liquid gives the same cure proportions as what I linked.


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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #962 on: May 25, 2023, 07:54:54 PM »
You are welcome to VISIT Austin and then return to your paradise of a home, any time you like.

So spill the deets on the homemade bacon?  I want to try this.  My boy is now 13 and eats bacon like it's candy, so it might even save me money...
Only 13? Good luck. My oldest is 15 and eats like, well, like I did at 15. Taco Tuesday is 6 tacos for him, rice, eating whatever dregs of meat/etc is left that the rest of the family didn't eat, and then asking for dessert... 

This is also why I smoke pork butts 30+ lbs at a time. And every time I see whole pork loin on sale at Costco, I buy two and portion them into roasts and pork chops. 

I'm hoping you own a vacuum sealer. If you don't, it will probably pay for itself in a matter of weeks by buying meat in bulk with a teenage boy in the house. 

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #963 on: May 26, 2023, 09:03:16 AM »
Yeah I don't have one but it's been on the list for a while. 


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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #965 on: May 26, 2023, 10:44:50 AM »
Really simple.

  • Buy pork belly. I find it at Costco as full slabs, usually try to pick the largest they have (>10#).
  • Because I use a vacuum sealer and gallon bags only fit about 1/3 of a slab, I cut it into 3 roughly equal pieces.
  • I use this calculator to determine curing: http://www.diggingdogfarm.com/page2.html
  • I mix the cure based on the weight of each 1/3 slab, and usually add fresh cracked black pepper. You can buy curing salt from Amazon super cheap for 1#, and 1# of curing salt will last you decades unless you're producing hundreds of pounds of bacon per year.
  • Slather the cure equally (to the extent you can) around the slabs, vacuum seal them, and put them in the fridge. Flip daily(ish), but it's no big deal if you miss a day or two.
  • Let them sit in the fridge (w/ flipping) 10-14 days.
  • Put them on a smoker @225 or so until they reach an internal temp of 155-160F.
  • Remove and chill to cold. (Cold aids in slicing).
  • Slice to appropriate thickness. This is the hardest part if you don't have a good meat slicer, because doing it by hand with a knife takes decent knife skills. But I do it by hand and it's not like I'm chef-level with a knife.
  • Vacuum seal and freeze the slices in appropriate portions, then thaw and cook as you normally would.

There are certainly other things you can do. AmazingRibs has a couple recipes on different flavors you can imbue the bacon with. However, don't pay any attention to the various things AmazingRibs says about how dry cure calculators are horrible and unsafe and that you can ONLY use what they say for a wet cure... If you're curing in a vacuum sealed bag, it's a wet cure even if you don't add any additional liquid. In fact, their calculator if you put in 0 ml of additional liquid gives the same cure proportions as what I linked.


I'm doing this for sure. Thanks!

And we do have a vacuum sealer. Gonna buy a meat slicer soonish. I've always wanted one.
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