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Topic: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #672 on: December 31, 2020, 11:50:18 AM »
Will be using ATK's Crockpot Rib Recipe.I'm using St Louis Ribs,this will be about the 5th time and I loved the results as I'm not much of a Q-Cook.I'm trying utee's yellow mustard slather method,then my own rub mix,used some Fiery 5 Flakes and Mrs Dash original/Montreal Seasoning spread over that.Letting it sit over nite covered on the back porch.

Into the Crock in the morning on low for 5-6 hrs,absolutley no fluids or juice in the bottom - it will render out.Sort of a steam/roast process.About 3 hrs into cook, open the top and use a baster to remove liquids at bottom - this creates a faux bark and a little crunch while the meat has been cooking.Usually done by 5 & 1/2 - 6 hrs
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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #673 on: December 31, 2020, 02:12:19 PM »
Sounds delicious. Only reason I don't think I would ever do crock pot ribs is that I don't think I could fit 3 slabs into a crock pot lol!

Sous vide is actually a pretty solid way to make ribs as well. 

Apply liquid (usually mustard for me as well) and rub as normal, then bag them up in the vacuum sealer--I usually cut each rack in half to make it easier to fit in bags. Sous vide at 145 degrees for 24 hours. Pull them out, put them on the grill or on a baking sheet in the oven with sauce just long enough to get the sauce to set, and you're ready to eat. 

You end up with ribs that are basically at "medium" doneness but perfectly tender, and they're freaking foolproof. 

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #674 on: December 31, 2020, 05:03:13 PM »
Ya you can only get 1 set - 2 racks in the crock.Added the Mustard this time so hope fully that's not too much moisture.Find out tomorrow after noon
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« Reply #675 on: January 02, 2021, 08:25:54 PM »
Ya you can only get 1 set - 2 racks in the crock.Added the Mustard this time so hope fully that's not too much moisture.Find out tomorrow after noon
How'd it work out?  If it's too much liquid, you could also just use mustard powder in the rub.

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« Reply #676 on: January 05, 2021, 07:16:32 PM »
Update: Used my meat grinder. I used the stock plate, not entirely sure what size, probably a quarter inch. I used the aldi brand "beef ribs" which is a bit of a mystery cut. I was very happy with the grind - its an offbrand kitchenaid attachment, but it made very short work of about 3 pounds of meat. The burgers themselves were good, though had a bit of a crumbly texture.  Not sure if that was the meat, the patty, or cooked too much. More experiments needed.

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #677 on: January 05, 2021, 07:27:51 PM »
Update: Used my meat grinder. I used the stock plate, not entirely sure what size, probably a quarter inch. I used the aldi brand "beef ribs" which is a bit of a mystery cut. I was very happy with the grind - its an offbrand kitchenaid attachment, but it made very short work of about 3 pounds of meat. The burgers themselves were good, though had a bit of a crumbly texture.  Not sure if that was the meat, the patty, or cooked too much. More experiments needed.
Crumbly when trying to form the patty or crumbly after cooking?

If it was crumbly when trying to form the patty you might have used too large of a grind. I've had that problem using the larger plate and now go to the smaller of the two KitchenAid attachment plates. The burgers hold together better that way. However you may have to do two passes--one with the coarse grinder plate and one with the fine, because it's a lot of strain on the motor to grind raw meat chunks on the fine. 

Recommend you rest the KitchenAid and put the meat in the freezer ~10 min between grinds. The freezer helps keep the fat from melting and the rest for the motor helps it not overheat. 

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #678 on: January 05, 2021, 08:46:32 PM »
Crumbly when trying to form the patty or crumbly after cooking?

If it was crumbly when trying to form the patty you might have used too large of a grind. I've had that problem using the larger plate and now go to the smaller of the two KitchenAid attachment plates. The burgers hold together better that way. However you may have to do two passes--one with the coarse grinder plate and one with the fine, because it's a lot of strain on the motor to grind raw meat chunks on the fine.

Recommend you rest the KitchenAid and put the meat in the freezer ~10 min between grinds. The freezer helps keep the fat from melting and the rest for the motor helps it not overheat.
Kind of both. The first one I didn't even form a patty, just sort of put some meat in a pile on a hot skillet. That proved difficult to flip. So I formed bigger patties and worked them a bit so they would hold together. These were much easier to work with though the finished texture was still a bit crumbly.

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« Reply #679 on: January 06, 2021, 03:22:54 PM »
Kind of both. The first one I didn't even form a patty, just sort of put some meat in a pile on a hot skillet. That proved difficult to flip. So I formed bigger patties and worked them a bit so they would hold together. These were much easier to work with though the finished texture was still a bit crumbly.
Yeah, maybe try the fine plate next time and see if it goes better...

...and shoot for a known cut where you have a decent idea of what sort of fat level you're working with. Not sure what an Aldi "beef rib" is--you'd think "boneless short ribs" would be the cut of meat that's sitting on top of the short rib plate, just removed from the bone... But "boneless short ribs" can often be a mystery cut as well and doesn't cook anything like actual short rib. 

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #680 on: January 06, 2021, 03:31:30 PM »
gotta have enough fat to help the patty stick together
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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #681 on: January 06, 2021, 05:03:46 PM »
Yeah, maybe try the fine plate next time and see if it goes better...

...and shoot for a known cut where you have a decent idea of what sort of fat level you're working with. Not sure what an Aldi "beef rib" is--you'd think "boneless short ribs" would be the cut of meat that's sitting on top of the short rib plate, just removed from the bone... But "boneless short ribs" can often be a mystery cut as well and doesn't cook anything like actual short rib.
I will try a finer plate and different cuts too.  I was going to get chuck roast, but the ribs are already sliced about an inch wide and 3 inches long, so they come ready to grind.  They have plenty of fat in them, though I can't say with any certainty how much.  But I wanted to try a mix of various cuts, so we'll see.

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #682 on: January 08, 2021, 10:35:40 AM »
I use brisket, ribeye and untrimmed skirt. I also add trimmings from whole tenderloin roasts that I cut up into steaks.
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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #683 on: January 26, 2021, 05:27:55 PM »
My wife found some pork belly in the freezer and demanded I cook it. I ended up roasting it in a cast iron skillet over some vegetables at 300 degrees for...four hours maybe. I scored it and slathered the top in salt and brown sugar. Came out pretty good - the top was crunchy and sweet and not burnt.

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #684 on: January 27, 2021, 01:10:41 AM »
To my surprise my wife came home with a nice trimmed and tied 4lb pork shoulder.  Going to make Cubans with it.   DIY marinade, OJ, lime juice, zest of both,  Cointreau, garlic, cumin, a little cilantro, oregano, S&P and olive oil.   Shoot for 250-275 on Egg in morning and expect 5 1/2 to 6hrs.  I think I may pull it versus slicing. 

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Re: CFB 51 Cookbook, equipment discussion, techniques
« Reply #685 on: January 27, 2021, 10:11:12 AM »
To my surprise my wife came home with a nice trimmed and tied 4lb pork shoulder.  Going to make Cubans with it.  DIY marinade, OJ, lime juice, zest of both,  Cointreau, garlic, cumin, a little cilantro, oregano, S&P and olive oil.  Shoot for 250-275 on Egg in morning and expect 5 1/2 to 6hrs.  I think I may pull it versus slicing.
That sounds awesome.  Salami or no?

 

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