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I had pizza for lunch

not bad
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So I took a crack at the soup dumplings. The first effort was...not terrible. I was mostly worried about the dough. It ended up coming out pretty good. It was overly sticky, and that combined with my complete lack of skill meant the dumplings weren't beautiful but they held together and had pretty good texture.

Where I failed completely was the soup! I made some chicken stock jello with stock, gelatin, and a bit of soy and fish sauce and refrigerated it. I'm not sure if my ratios of soup to pork were off, but no real soup to speak of. It didn't look like they leaked, so I'm not sure where I messed up there.

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So I'm visiting my in-laws in Michigan, and around here restaurants called Coney Islands are a thing, despite being a long way from New York City. 

At first I thought it was a place that just sold Coney Island-style hot dogs (with "chili" and raw onions). While I like a good hot dog as much as any other red-blooded American man, I wouldn't think that it would be enough to run a whole chain of restaurants.  From the ones I've been in, Coney Islands are diners that also have killer Greek gyros. Apparently it's very much a Michigan thing that's tied to Greek immigration. 

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we had a coney island hot dog shop here - gone now

no gyros, just great dogs
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So I took a crack at the soup dumplings. The first effort was...not terrible. I was mostly worried about the dough. It ended up coming out pretty good. It was overly sticky, and that combined with my complete lack of skill meant the dumplings weren't beautiful but they held together and had pretty good texture.

Where I failed completely was the soup! I made some chicken stock jello with stock, gelatin, and a bit of soy and fish sauce and refrigerated it. I'm not sure if my ratios of soup to pork were off, but no real soup to speak of. It didn't look like they leaked, so I'm not sure where I messed up there.
Yeah, maybe not enough soup? Do you think it partially got soaked into the dumplings?

But hey, if your first try on these things is "not terrible", that's actually pretty damn good! :72:

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Yeah, maybe not enough soup? Do you think it partially got soaked into the dumplings?

But hey, if your first try on these things is "not terrible", that's actually pretty damn good! :72:
That may be it. I had to flour the dumplings some to make them less sticky, that residual flour might have thickened the soup too much. I used two cups of stock v. a pound of ground pork. It does make me want to go get some real ones though.

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So I'm visiting my in-laws in Michigan, and around here restaurants called Coney Islands are a thing, despite being a long way from New York City.

At first I thought it was a place that just sold Coney Island-style hot dogs (with "chili" and raw onions). While I like a good hot dog as much as any other red-blooded American man, I wouldn't think that it would be enough to run a whole chain of restaurants.  From the ones I've been in, Coney Islands are diners that also have killer Greek gyros. Apparently it's very much a Michigan thing that's tied to Greek immigration.
Coney Island hot dog shops have a long, convoluted history.  But Greek immigrants do feature prominently in the story.
From a poorly remembered oral history of a guy who started the Coney Island shop in Tulsa, I think that there was a national chain of them in the 1920s or thereabouts.  I think that many/most/maybe nearly all of the individual store owners were Greek immigrants.  Christ Economou (the guy who started the Tulsa store) was.  And he had started other stores in the Midwest before he got to Oklahoma.  The chain spelled the tubular-meat product "weiner," which is wrong, of course.  They did it to avoid the potential of trademark infringement.
The chain--I think--then disappeared, but individual stores scattered from New York to Tulsa still remained.  Some went out of business, others didn't.
But other Greek immigrants also had shops serving coneys and gyros.  We had a long-lasting one of those--called Jim's Never on Sunday Coneys--in Tulsa, founded by a guy named Jim Boukadakis back in the 1950s.  Or maybe it was his dad, and it was founded in the '20s or '30s.  It closed a year or two ago.  Jim's grandkids didn't want to keep it going.
The Coney Island store in Tulsa, the one started by Christ Economou and still run by the family, spun off its own expanded operation of drive-ins called Coney I-Landers.  At some point, the family split up the business and the original (in downtown Tulsa) Coney Island store and the Coney I-Lander drive-ins are corporately independent of each other.  But the menu is basically the same.
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the Margeas family owned the coney island business in Sioux City - 2 locations

Greek Heritage

for more than 100 years

George S. Margeas
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This is a reverse-engineered attempt at replicating the Coney I-Lander chili recipe.  It's a very mild chili.  As I think I remember Christ Economou saying, a strong chili will overwhelm the hot dog.  I always put hot sauce on my coneys.

CONEY I-LANDER CHILI (ALMOST)

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Recipe by Dax2868

READY IN: 20mins
YIELD: 8 Hot Dogs
UNITS: US

INGREDIENTS
1 lb ground beef
1 (6 ounce) can tomato paste
1 medium sized onion, diced
1 garlic clove, minced
1 cup water
1 tablespoon sugar
1 tablespoon yellow mustard (or more)
2 teaspoons chili powder
1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
1 teaspoon salt
1⁄4 teaspoon pepper
1⁄2 teaspoon cumin
8 tablespoons of extra virgin coconut oil (or less)

OPTIONAL
2 teaspoons vinegar (optional)
1 teaspoon cinnamon (optional)
1 teaspoon cocoa (optional)
1 teaspoon allspice (optional)

DIRECTIONS
  • Add 4 tablespoons of coconut oil to skillet, brown beef in it along with onions and garlic.
  • Add all remaining ingredients and stir together well til they are combined. Cook about 15 minutes on medium low heat after bringing to a boil.
  • When cooking is almost done, add the remaining 4 tablespoons of coconut oil.
  • Serve on hot dogs with cheese and mustard!
  • I hope you enjoy! this tastes so similar to the Coney Islander in Tulsa Ok, and I plan on fine tuning the recipe a little more possibly omitting the tomato paste and adding more mustard.

OPTIONAL: Try adding 2 tsp vinegar, 1 tsp cinnamon, 1 tsp cocoa, 1 tsp allspice – it will get you closer….”Someone who knows” That was a comment on the original post. I can say that I have heard some of these ingredients are in the original recipe.
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that's the good stuff
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This is a reverse-engineered attempt at replicating the Coney I-Lander chili recipe.  It's a very mild chili.  As I think I remember Christ Economou saying, a strong chili will overwhelm the hot dog.  I always put hot sauce on my coneys.

CONEY I-LANDER CHILI (ALMOST)

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Recipe by Dax2868

READY IN: 20mins
YIELD: 8 Hot Dogs
UNITS: US

INGREDIENTS
1 lb ground beef
1 (6 ounce) can tomato paste
1 medium sized onion, diced
1 garlic clove, minced
1 cup water
1 tablespoon sugar
1 tablespoon yellow mustard (or more)
2 teaspoons chili powder
1 teaspoon Worcestershire sauce
1 teaspoon salt
1⁄4 teaspoon pepper
1⁄2 teaspoon cumin
8 tablespoons of extra virgin coconut oil (or less)

OPTIONAL
2 teaspoons vinegar (optional)
1 teaspoon cinnamon (optional)
1 teaspoon cocoa (optional)
1 teaspoon allspice (optional)

DIRECTIONS
  • Add 4 tablespoons of coconut oil to skillet, brown beef in it along with onions and garlic.
  • Add all remaining ingredients and stir together well til they are combined. Cook about 15 minutes on medium low heat after bringing to a boil.
  • When cooking is almost done, add the remaining 4 tablespoons of coconut oil.
  • Serve on hot dogs with cheese and mustard!
  • I hope you enjoy! this tastes so similar to the Coney Islander in Tulsa Ok, and I plan on fine tuning the recipe a little more possibly omitting the tomato paste and adding more mustard.

OPTIONAL: Try adding 2 tsp vinegar, 1 tsp cinnamon, 1 tsp cocoa, 1 tsp allspice – it will get you closer….”Someone who knows” That was a comment on the original post. I can say that I have heard some of these ingredients are in the original recipe.

Heh I had some ground beef and my girls wanted hot dogs so I put this recipe together.  Didn't do the optional ingredients, and didn't fool around with coconut oil and had to substitute tomato paste and water for tomato sauce.  But it was good - brighter than some hot dog chili sauces I've had.

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I'm glad it turned out well for you, Sam.
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