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Topic: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19

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847badgerfan

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #322 on: October 23, 2019, 01:27:40 PM »
Seems like it's always the same guy trying to steer the convo towards politics.
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I think many of us have been "guilty" at times. I also think it's really hard not to at least tread, given some of the topics that come up here. I think we all know where to stop, honestly.
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #323 on: October 23, 2019, 01:30:33 PM »
The group HERE could probably handle it, for a while anyway.  

Bad feelings usually erupt eventually for no good reason.

People almost choose their team to support no matter what.

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #324 on: October 23, 2019, 01:45:17 PM »
A whole lot of folks do not like politics, and don't discuss current events.  Those who do tend to be polarized and entrenched.

I fear the general public's apathy is part of why things are the way they are, both in the realm of political action (an unopposed force will keep moving) and insomuch as "sides" are extremely polarized.  When most of the population shuts up, the wheels that are left can squeak that much louder.  But, that probably all falls under things to steer clear of, so I'll shut up now.  

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #325 on: October 23, 2019, 01:48:07 PM »
We hear from the strident, the motivated, the incensed, not from folks just getting on with their lives.

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #326 on: October 23, 2019, 01:53:00 PM »
You're equating clickbait headlines on stupid internet sites to actual bomb threats, 

Yes, but not just clickbait headlines - all purposefully false and gaslighting speech online.


Maybe it is laughable.  
But one (bomb threat) only puts the people in one structure at risk, while the reach of internet messages can reach tens of millions.  Poo-poo it now, most do, but in 10 years, the internet won't be considered some separate, harmless thing we cannot regulate.  And back to my initial point, the only reason we'll have to wait some years to realize this truth is that the old people who run things are ignorant of the issue.
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #327 on: October 23, 2019, 01:54:20 PM »
folks said the same thing about the internet 10 years ago
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #328 on: October 23, 2019, 01:54:31 PM »
and 20 years ago
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #329 on: October 23, 2019, 01:59:43 PM »
The group HERE could probably handle it, for a while anyway. 

Bad feelings usually erupt eventually for no good reason.

People almost choose their team to support no matter what.

This is the largest problem I see.  For some reason, over the past decade or two, people have begun treating politics more like a football game, or a soccer match, or something.  They choose to identify by party rather than ideals, and then actively "root" for their "team" over the other "team" regardless of the ideas and platforms being espoused by either one of them.  The battleground matters less and less, and the political team identity matters more and more, to the point that I've noted people supporting candidates they find deplorable and disgusting, simply because he or she is "their team's guy."  And no, I'm not talking about just one particular, polarizing, political leader we currently have.  I've seen BOTH sides do it quite a bit.

Since I am a member of neither "team" and don't feel either one represents my preferred ideals and policies particularly well, I end up being more of a neutral observer.  I see REALLY smart friends and relatives at each other's throats, for no reason other than their team identity.  It's especially bad on social media, possibly due to the arm's-length nature of that type of communication, and possibly due to the relative anonymity of internet fighting with "friends of friends."  But I also see it live, in person, all the time.

It baffles me.  Three decades ago and more, people disagreed on matters of policy and ideology, and discussed it openly, and were still able to remain cordial if not friendly.  That's just not common anymore, at all.  It's sad, I feel.  I'm not sure how to navigate back, as long as people choose to identify with a particular team, rather than ideals.  I just don't see it getting any better.

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #330 on: October 23, 2019, 02:06:12 PM »
I don't either.  

To the earlier point about Ben Frankling telling the woman "A republic, madame, if you can keep it,".....we can't, and we won't.

Yeah, I'm big ball of sunshine, I know.  

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #331 on: October 23, 2019, 02:15:50 PM »
I don't either. 

To the earlier point about Ben Frankling telling the woman "A republic, madame, if you can keep it,".....we can't, and we won't.

Yeah, I'm big ball of sunshine, I know. 
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #332 on: October 23, 2019, 02:23:55 PM »
One must admit, a large segment of the population not caring and the rest of population being increasingly forced to abide by the "no talking in public" unspoken rules thrust on us in an increasing number of public spaces is a fantastic recipe for not keeping it.  It's certainly not how we got it.  

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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #333 on: October 23, 2019, 02:35:33 PM »
No doubt. And I'd tell ya all about it if I could, but there is no bar that is truly near either of us.
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #334 on: October 23, 2019, 03:15:14 PM »
I don't mind discussing politics with someone rational and reasonable.

If that person is not able to admit that the party they are aligned with is a part of the probelm and guilty of the same crap tactics as the other party, then I refuse to have a discussion.

In this two party system, neither party is clean.  IMO
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Re: Stream of Conciousness 2019-10-19
« Reply #335 on: October 23, 2019, 03:16:14 PM »
No doubt. And I'd tell ya all about it if I could, but there is no bar that is truly near either of us.
and, yes, I'd rather have that reasonable discussion over a few rounds of drinks.
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