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Topic: Stirring the Pot

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Cincydawg

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Re: Stirring the Pot
« Reply #322 on: October 10, 2018, 03:03:46 PM »
It's always been labeled as Tennessee Sourmash Whiskey.  Not bourbon.  They take pride in that.  That's kind of the point. :)
It's certainly made like bourbon and tastes like some bourbons.
But it's not.
I think that is what I said.  It COULD be labeled bourbon legally, but isn't.

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Re: Stirring the Pot
« Reply #323 on: October 10, 2018, 03:05:48 PM »
You're really picking nits in an attempt to prove a stupid and meaningless point.

ditto

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Re: Stirring the Pot
« Reply #324 on: October 10, 2018, 04:05:16 PM »
this is the "stirring the Pot" thread

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Re: Stirring the Pot
« Reply #325 on: October 10, 2018, 04:53:46 PM »
A Vidalia onion has to be grown within 50 miles of the Vidalia courthouse.

Champagne can be, and fairly often is, made from red grapes.

If you like sparkling wines, the best values IMHO are Cavas from Spain.  You can get a decent one for $12 or so.


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Re: Stirring the Pot
« Reply #326 on: October 10, 2018, 04:55:00 PM »
and sure as shootin, don't call it chili if it's got beans in it
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Re: Stirring the Pot
« Reply #327 on: October 10, 2018, 05:11:18 PM »
this is the "stirring the Pot" thread

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No shit.
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Re: Stirring the Pot
« Reply #328 on: October 10, 2018, 05:17:01 PM »
I have never been to Vermont.  Or Canada.  I've never been north of our border.  I've seen it from a plane.

Just never made it, meant to.


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Re: Stirring the Pot
« Reply #329 on: October 10, 2018, 05:37:22 PM »
been to Canada....  motorcycle trip along the north shore of Superior from Duluth to Thunder Bay - great drive

then from Thunder Bay to Kenora in Ontario

Haven't been to Vermont, closest would be my trip to Boston
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Re: Stirring the Pot
« Reply #330 on: October 10, 2018, 05:43:50 PM »
Vermont is very beautiful. So are NH and ME.


I want to party in Montreal for a weekend or two. It would be cool to go by boat, but that would be really expensive and too time-consuming for right now.
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Re: Stirring the Pot
« Reply #331 on: October 10, 2018, 05:45:03 PM »
I just opened that $10 Burgundy I got at Costco.  It's quite good, esp. for that price.  It's a "Louis Latour" Les Bastides, which is a name that probably resonates around here for some reason.  Highly recommended.


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Re: Stirring the Pot
« Reply #332 on: October 10, 2018, 05:49:03 PM »
There are some differences between Cognac and Armangnac aside from region of original.

Bourbon under US law can only be produced in the US.  Maybe somewhere someone else makes something called bourbon, I don't know.  The basic requirements for bourbon are made in the US, 2 years of aging (at least), and 50+ corn (up to 79% I think) in the mash.  It has an interesting history, including the fact that none is currently made in Bourbon County, KY (though I think someone was building a distillery).

Champagne is the same way in effect, it can only be made in Champagne, but if you look at a bottle of Korbel, you will see on the label "California Champagne".  They were grandfathered in basically.  There are a couple others than can label that way in CA also.

French wines of course are labeled with place names, while US wines are labeled as varietals.  I see more and more French wine labels including the varietal, but you're supposed to know.  I actually know some oenophiles in France who pay no attention to the varietal in a wine.  They know what Bordeaux is, but can't name the five varietals that can be used in it (if it's red) and don't care.

Most know that Burgundy is pinot noir or chardonnay, but they don't know the minors that can be used, and they have no idea what grapes can be used in Champagne.

We were in Costco today and they had some ridiculous prices in Chianti Classico Riserva.  They also had a Burgundy for $10.  I don't know how they get prices down that far other than scale of course.  I'll try the Burgundy tonight.

They have crazy insane wine prices around here.
Yeah, agree that most of the French don't know, and don't care, which varietals are in their wine.  They grew up with the system so it's easier for them to navigate. The regions and classifications tell them what they need to know, because they've always known it.
As an American, I appreciate knowing, although I too don't really care.  In general I prefer Left Bank Bordeaux because the blend is led by Cabernet Sauvignon, but there are plenty of Right Bank Merlot/Cab Franc-based Bordeaux I enjoy as well.

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Re: Stirring the Pot
« Reply #333 on: October 10, 2018, 05:51:23 PM »
hah, you just called it bourbon
I did, didn't I? ;)
I'll admit I don't really feel very passionately about the stance I took.  It's just an academic exercise for me, really.  
But this IS the pot stirring thread, so...

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Re: Stirring the Pot
« Reply #334 on: October 10, 2018, 05:57:10 PM »
I lean to the Left Bank also, but it's only a lean.  As you note, there are plenty of merlot heavy Bordeauxs that are excellent, some unaffordable in effect (for me).  I'm usually on the lookout for wines from a less well known region that are really good without the price.  Languedoc has been pretty good for that.  Spain has been good also.

Costco had Kirkland brand Gigondas for $15 each and I had to add two of those.  I'll post my thoughts when I open one.


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Re: Stirring the Pot
« Reply #335 on: October 10, 2018, 06:12:22 PM »
Finish it 1st
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