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Topic: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #4438 on: August 17, 2026, 09:17:50 AM »
So is being "sporty" a function of how it looks, its engine specs, or some combination of both? 
I listed my rather restrictive criteria, which admittedly is too narrow, whatever.  I don't consider a Porsche Macan to be sporty even though it can put down some solid numbers.  I think a broader more modern criteria list for being "sporty" would be:

Two seater, low slung, a bit cramped
Good performance, e.g., 0-60 under 5 seconds, good handling, skidpad over 0.90 G.

Nice to have convertible option and manual option.  

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #4439 on: August 17, 2026, 12:07:55 PM »


In the Smokies.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #4440 on: August 17, 2026, 10:34:50 PM »
I listed my rather restrictive criteria, which admittedly is too narrow, whatever.  I don't consider a Porsche Macan to be sporty even though it can put down some solid numbers.  I think a broader more modern criteria list for being "sporty" would be:

Two seater, low slung, a bit cramped
Good performance, e.g., 0-60 under 5 seconds, good handling, skidpad over 0.90 G.

Nice to have convertible option and manual option. 
works for me
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #4441 on: August 18, 2026, 08:20:26 AM »
The US prototype for a sporty car is the Corvette, so anything that kinda looks like that is "sporty".  I consider the Mustang to be quite sporty, even though it was a tiny back seat.  The Camaro apparently is "coming back" but as a four door, which, well, it shouldn't.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #4442 on: August 18, 2026, 08:41:25 AM »
it's odd to have 2 Mustangs and quite different
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #4443 on: August 18, 2026, 08:44:49 AM »
it's odd to have 2 Mustangs and quite different
One it NOT a Mustang, despite the name on the car.  

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« Reply #4444 on: August 18, 2026, 08:49:41 AM »
agreed, but I saw one yesterday
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« Reply #4445 on: August 18, 2026, 02:30:34 PM »
They are popular here, and I've driven them: they are sporty, particularly as SUVs go. Lots of torque, handle well. But they are SUVs, so that puts a damper on sportiness.

We thought seriously about buying one, but the pending battery death, rendering the car little more than scrap metal salvage, dissuaded us.

And I agree with the sentiment that they are just not the same as a real Mustang.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #4446 on: August 18, 2026, 04:22:24 PM »
From what I can tell, worry about battery life in an EV is largely unfounded.  It CAN happen too early, but it seems to be rare, and they have a 100,000 mile warranty on them.


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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #4447 on: August 18, 2026, 04:52:33 PM »
I'll be interested to see in the coming years what the average MBK is for those batteries (Mileage Before *Kaput*).  In general, I expect to get much more than 100k miles on my vehicles.  Obviously, warranty != usable life, but if you have a problem with no warranty......no bueno.  

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« Reply #4448 on: August 18, 2026, 05:54:10 PM »
From what I can tell, worry about battery life in an EV is largely unfounded.  It CAN happen too early, but it seems to be rare, and they have a 100,000 mile warranty on them.


We tend to keep our cars a long time. At least that's our goal. I would be really frustrated to have, for instance, a 12-year old car that has no resale value because the battery now only keeps about 50 miles per charge.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #4449 on: August 18, 2026, 06:10:47 PM »
Nearly as I can tell, a 12 year old EV battery should have ~70-80% of its original charge. 

How Long Does an Electric Car Battery Last? | EV Connect

EV Battery Health: Key Findings from 22,700 Vehicle Data Analysis | Geotab

My main issue is the cost of charging away from home or in an apt/condo.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #4450 on: August 19, 2026, 01:15:42 PM »
???????


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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #4451 on: August 19, 2026, 03:46:38 PM »
Hyundai's design / visual identity has been a giant mess for years. Regarding visual identity--they had none. There was no consistent design arc across anything they produced. 

They actually decided to do something about it not long ago... https://www.drive.com.au/news/hyundai-design-to-align-among-models-without-going-full-cookie-cutter/

So whether you like it or not, at least they're trying to have a coherent design across the lineup. 

 

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