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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #4410 on: Today at 08:48:39 AM »
yup, unless you gotta write the check
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« Reply #4411 on: Today at 09:04:23 AM »
yup, unless you gotta write the check
Yup, I love the GT but the original sticker price was around $400,000 and they're now going for $700K to over a million.

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« Reply #4412 on: Today at 09:52:29 AM »
I like cheap Chevys for that reason
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« Reply #4413 on: Today at 12:08:49 PM »
This highlights what I was getting at with the lack of a Corvette fighter. The GT could be a Corvette fighter, but it isn't. It's really just a track car, priced to sell to only a handful of people so that Ford can say that it is available for sale. 

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« Reply #4414 on: Today at 12:19:17 PM »
Dodge Dart was also two door wasn't it?


When I graduated from college, my mom promised me her 1973 Dodge Dart Swinger 2dr, 3 sp Manual, with the 225 slant six that would run until the Sun novaed. It was a pale yellow and in great condition. Looked a lot like this car, but without the stripes and the air intake. Even had the original gas cap in matching yellow, which, in the 90s, was rare for these cars.
The manual transmission was also a rarity. As I understand it, the 73 Dart only came in an automatic, but my grandfather insisted on a manual, so he had it customized, with a Hurst shifting box, which felt great, even though a 225 slant six did not exactly exude power. Nonetheless it accelerated pretty well from 35-55, which was fun when getting on the freeway. I loved that car. Drove it in high school and while I was home on breaks during college. Pushed it up to 105 on a wide open freeway once, and quickly realized that was too damn fast for that car (which is saying something for an 18-year old to realize: "this is not safe.")
My plan was to upgrade it to a 318 or 340 V8 (although, to be fair, I probably didn't fully understand the amount of work that would have required).
Literally two weeks before I graduated my mom was in a wreck and the car was totaled. (Mom was ok, which was a minor miracle given how cars were built in 1973.
Instead they gave me some money for a down payment on a used, 4dr Honda Accord. Not very interesting--not nearly as interesting as the Dart--but a great car. Sigh.

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« Reply #4415 on: Today at 12:26:36 PM »
Man I never got to drive a cool old car like that.  I had friends with 67 Mustangs and 68 Camaros and 70 Cougars and whatnot, but the closest I ever came was a ten-year-old Fox body Mustang when I was in college.

Don't get me wrong, I loved my 1986 Chrysler Laser Turbo that was 3 yeas old when I got it.  It was modern with a fancy stereo and digital display cluster and black leather seats, but that's not the same as driving vintage.


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« Reply #4416 on: Today at 12:40:08 PM »
At one point we had a blown head gasket, which we hadn't figured out yet. To keep the car from overheating, we would put the heat on full blast and try to keep the rpms low. I remember driving from the Bay Area to Sacramento (about a 2 hour drive) in the middle of the summer with the heat on full blast and the windows down. (No air conditioning in that car--not that you could have run one anyway if you were trying to bleed heat off the engine.) Not the most fun. But I nursed the car there and back.

Eventually we diagnosed and fixed the head gasket. Good as new. Those engines required more maintenance than a modern machine, but they were easy to fix, and with a little love, felt like they would last forever. (Not like a Toyota 4 cyl forever, but forever by the standards of the day.)

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« Reply #4417 on: Today at 01:11:02 PM »
At one point we had a blown head gasket, which we hadn't figured out yet. To keep the car from overheating, we would put the heat on full blast and try to keep the rpms low. I remember driving from the Bay Area to Sacramento (about a 2 hour drive) in the middle of the summer with the heat on full blast and the windows down. (No air conditioning in that car--not that you could have run one anyway if you were trying to bleed heat off the engine.) Not the most fun. But I nursed the car there and back.

Eventually we diagnosed and fixed the head gasket. Good as new. Those engines required more maintenance than a modern machine, but they were easy to fix, and with a little love, felt like they would last forever. (Not like a Toyota 4 cyl forever, but forever by the standards of the day.)
My 1985 1/2 Ford Escort had a cracked head when I had it at Purdue for freshman year of college. The "1/2" model year was the 1985 body with the 1986 engine. IIRC it was an iron block with an aluminum head--which [the material's thermal mismatch] might have a lot to do with why the head cracked. 

We towed it home for the summer and I spent the summer replacing the head. About a week before the semester started, I had it complete, and it was running better than ever--despite the fact that I had a few extra parts from the vacuum system and other parts I'd plugged with golf tees. But it was running like a dream. 

And then 4 days later I totaled it. 

We spend $700 for the refurb head (and lots of hours labor) to fix a car that the insurance company said was worth $1100 and w/ a $500 deductible... So my dad got a check for $600 for a car we'd just spent $700 fixing. Oops :57:


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« Reply #4418 on: Today at 01:13:09 PM »
Oh, and when I moved from San Jose to SoCal, I'd rented a big (maybe 26'?) U-Haul. 

Going over the Grapevine, in the summer, I got to learn what happens when you try to go uphill in a big truck with the A/C on. It starts to overheat...

So I turned off the A/C, opened the windows, and ran the heater. It was miserable but it kept the temps where they needed to be. 

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« Reply #4419 on: Today at 01:25:48 PM »
Eventually we diagnosed and fixed the head gasket. Good as new. Those engines required more maintenance than a modern machine, but they were easy to fix, and with a little love, felt like they would last forever. (Not like a Toyota 4 cyl forever, but forever by the standards of the day.)


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« Reply #4420 on: Today at 01:36:47 PM »
Man I never got to drive a cool old car like that.  I had friends with 67 Mustangs and 68 Camaros and 70 Cougars and whatnot, but the closest I ever came was a ten-year-old Fox body Mustang when I was in college.

My best friend in BR had a '64 1/2 Mustang his dad got him sometime his freshman year of HS.  It had a lot that needed repairing before it would run and was road-worthy.  Body was in great shape, though.  I didn't even live there at the time--we were in Georgia for a couple years at that point--but I spent most of that summer in BR fixing that thing up with him.  I'm not much of a mechanic, and I'm not sure he was either, but his dad was paying for all the parts and provided guidance if we got stuck, which I seem to recall happened a fair bit.  He thought it would be good experience for my friend to fix something up and learn how it all worked.  I guess my friend thought it would be a good experience for him if I helped him :57:

I don't know if that qualifies as a "cool old car" or not....I'm not much of a car guy.  But it was a 30-yr. old (at the time) "antique," or so I thought, and I thought it looked cool compared to the cheap crap Ford was making at the time, like the '90-something Ford Tempo my sister had.  That was a full two years before I actually learned to drive a manual transmission, and the crazy thing I remember about that car was.....it didn't matter.  We both probably took life off of it which we worked so hard to inject back into it by learning to drive it, but unlike the little sedan I would get a couple years later which would die easily if you didn't handle the clutch just right, that Mustang just kept plowing away seemingly no matter what I did.  It might make noises protesting my ineptitude and inexperience, but it just ran.  

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« Reply #4421 on: Today at 01:42:45 PM »

Well yeah, since that era of Mustang is my bucket list dream car, it's for sure a "cool old car" in my opinion!

My best friend in BR had a '64 1/2 Mustang his dad got him sometime his freshman year of HS.  It had a lot that needed repairing before it would run and was road-worthy.  Body was in great shape, though.  I didn't even live there at the time--we were in Georgia for a couple years at that point--but I spent most of that summer in BR fixing that thing up with him.  I'm not much of a mechanic, and I'm not sure he was either, but his dad was paying for all the parts and provided guidance if we got stuck, which I seem to recall happened a fair bit.  He thought it would be good experience for my friend to fix something up and learn how it all worked.  I guess my friend thought it would be a good experience for him if I helped him :57:

I don't know if that qualifies as a "cool old car" or not....I'm not much of a car guy.  But it was a 30-yr. old (at the time) "antique," or so I thought, and I thought it looked cool compared to the cheap crap Ford was making at the time, like the '90-something Ford Tempo my sister had.  That was a full two years before I actually learned to drive a manual transmission, and the crazy thing I remember about that car was.....it didn't matter.  We both probably took life off of it which we worked so hard to inject back into it by learning to drive it, but unlike the little sedan I would get a couple years later which would die easily if you didn't handle the clutch just right, that Mustang just kept plowing away seemingly no matter what I did.  It might make noises protesting my ineptitude and inexperience, but it just ran. 

 

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