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Topic: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3654 on: November 05, 2025, 04:09:01 PM »
I wish. I've been out and about a few times this week and almost got crunched twice.

I'm glad to be driving a very safe car.
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3655 on: November 05, 2025, 09:26:10 PM »
Though they share a name, the C7 Corvette Z06 and C8 Z06 couldn’t be much more different in many ways, including how they drive.
As Corvette enthusiasts are well aware, the C8 Z06 debuted to tremendous fanfare, and for quite some time, the potent, track-focused model remained in high demand and short supply. Thankfully, that has evened out in recent months, and one can now easily purchase a new Corvette Z06 at sticker price, rather than having to pay some additional markup. Regardless, there are also plenty of C7 Corvette Z06 owners out there wondering if the C8 is worth upgrading to – particularly given its higher cost of entry.

This question surfaced recently in the CorvetteForum forums, as C7 Corvette Z06 owner Monkey D. Luffy is seeking advice as to whether or not they should upgrade to a C8 Z06, as their current car has quite a lot of miles on it and is starting to have some teething issues as a result. As one might imagine, one of the bigger differences between these cars pertains to what lies under the hood, aside from the position that it’s mounted in – up front in the C7 Corvette Z06, and mid-ship in the C8.

The C7 Corvette Z06 utilizes the supercharged 6.2-liter LT4 V8, which produces 650 horsepower and 650 pound-feet of torque, flowing to the wheels via either a Tremec seven-speed manual transmission or the 8L90 eight-speed automatic. As for the C8 Z06, it’s packing the naturally aspirated 5.5-liter LT6 V8, producing 670 horsepower and 460 pound-feet of torque, which is mated exclusively to a seven-speed dual clutch gearbox.

As one might imagine, that big difference – coupled with the way these cars were designed – makes them quite different to drive. “I think the best way to describe it is the C8Z has more usable power than the C7Z,” said Yillbs. “The C8Z is a literal race car, and it drives like one. If you’re used to the C7Z’s mannerisms you won’t like the C8Z. You don’t start getting into the C7Z type power until above 5-6k rpm, it gets loud, and downright fun.”

The C7 Corvette Z06 is clearly the better stoplight-to-stoplight machine, given its copious amounts of low-end torque (if one can find traction), while the C8 version makes its power higher in the rev range. There’s also the fact that the earlier model can be had with a manual gearbox, which is quite appealing to some.

“I own both. I enjoy them both, equally,” said capevettes. “My C7Z is a seven-speed manual. C7 makes way more low end torque but if you keep the revs above 3,600 rpms, the C8Z just keeps pulling. The C8 just puts the power down better. The C7 wants to blow up the tires through first and second gear. On balance, the C8 is a more complete car, but the C7 is as much fun to drive. Paddle shifting the C8 in track mode is very engaging and the exhaust wails at high rpms. As said, you need to spend some time behind the wheel to make a proper decision.”

Ultimately, choosing between the C7 Corvette Z06 and C8 Z06 really just boils down to what you’re most interested in. While some feel like the C8 Z06 is a suitable road car, others may find it to be a bit harsh in those conditions, and perhaps they may not be able to fully take advantage of its capabilities – or, even get into the real meat of the power band. For them, the C7 Z06 may be a better choice, and it’s also worth mentioning that one can pick up one of those older cars for far less money, to boot.
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3657 on: December 03, 2025, 09:19:05 AM »
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3658 on: December 03, 2025, 09:41:34 AM »
We have an 85 mph speed limit on some of the toll roads around Austin.  I drive like a grandma and rarely speed, but on those roads if I'm not going at least 90, I'm severely impeding the flow of traffic.  I'm constantly getting passed by cars going 110 or more.  Cops don't bother to patrol it, I guess because it's too far from their favorite...errr.... coffee shops or whatever.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3659 on: December 03, 2025, 09:57:24 AM »
probably don't want to pay the toll

I've been on them.  I even have a North Texas TollTag
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3660 on: December 03, 2025, 11:30:46 AM »
A project just started noth of me to build toll express lanes along 16 miles of Georgia 400.  Cost?  Over $4 billion.

This is pretty controversial, but it's a private venture costing the state nearly nothing, but of course, but the time it's finished it likely will be overrun with cars, or something major will have changed in transportion like autonomous.

I lean to thinking autonomous will be a partial solution to traffic issues.


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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3661 on: December 03, 2025, 11:35:09 AM »
The experience with toll lanes in Los Angeles (though I'm pretty sure I remember BRAD kvetching about them) has been fairly positive from a transportation impact point of view, e.g., it has resulted in a steady flow of revenue, and it has had a positive impact on traffic flow in all lanes (not just the toll lane). I know our local pols have been implementing them with that background and with a decent amount of success (and similar kvetching from some of the public). Curious that the Atlanta version is private--I know I've driven on such a private toll road in Houston. Weird.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3662 on: December 03, 2025, 11:48:15 AM »
The experience with toll lanes in Los Angeles (though I'm pretty sure I remember BRAD kvetching about them) has been fairly positive from a transportation impact point of view, e.g., it has resulted in a steady flow of revenue, and it has had a positive impact on traffic flow in all lanes (not just the toll lane). I know our local pols have been implementing them with that background and with a decent amount of success (and similar kvetching from some of the public). Curious that the Atlanta version is private--I know I've driven on such a private toll road in Houston. Weird.
Pretty sure the toll roads down here is a sort of privatized partnership thing... So they were funded by private sources buying bonds and the bonds used to construct them are then repaid out of the toll revenue. 

I don't necessarily kvetch about them. I am annoyed by them, because they're expensive. And I generally don't drive on them unless it REALLY changes my drive/traffic time, because they're expensive. (And that's probably irrational because it's not like I can't afford it; I just get irked paying for it.) I'll actually be getting on one here shortly because I have to run an errand that would be made much more out of the way if I didn't, and then I have to go from there to the office so I'm on a schedule. 

I'm torn on them... Essentially it's probably true that if they had to be constructed with public funds, they might not happen at all. W/O getting into politics, we all know the state of California's finances aren't always capable of funding these things. So I'm happy that they get built at all, for when I need them. They're REALLY convenient when I need them. I just try to avoid them because of the cost...

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3663 on: December 03, 2025, 12:30:29 PM »
Why do they drop the speed limits when they improve a road? It should be the other way around. One of our burbs added a third lane to the freeway, and dropped the speed limit by 5mph. Another added a bunch of turn lanes to an old highway, and dropped the speed limit by 10 mph. 

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3664 on: December 03, 2025, 12:36:52 PM »
Why do they drop the speed limits when they improve a road? It should be the other way around. One of our burbs added a third lane to the freeway, and dropped the speed limit by 5mph. Another added a bunch of turn lanes to an old highway, and dropped the speed limit by 10 mph.
Sometimes when improvements are done, design speeds get reduced. Adding turn lanes will definitely reduce the design speed.

Not sure what the geometry of the 3 lane highway looks like so I can't answer that one.


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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3665 on: December 03, 2025, 01:05:49 PM »
Just a stretch of I-15 upgraded from 2 lanes each way to 3. 

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3666 on: December 03, 2025, 01:17:34 PM »
Yeah, I'd have to know the details. Cross-slope, land widths, etc.
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3667 on: December 03, 2025, 01:18:23 PM »
They did add an exit. 


 

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