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betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #2786 on:** April 14, 2025, 01:55:32 PM »

Quote from: MikeDeTiger on April 14, 2025, 01:35:20 PM

I've never been one of those guys, but it seems they value the roar of a loud engine too, and will remove mufflers and anything else they can think of so that the people in the next county can hear it. I have little knowledge and experience with EVs, but it seems like they wouldn't offer that.

Yeah, could be true. I've also never been one of those guys. I'm an adrenaline junkie, but it was always about speed/cornering for me, not straight line acceleration and noise. I'd have much more fun on a road course than a dragstrip.

And as such I never quite understood the "muscle car" fascination... I'd rather be carving corners than just mashing down the rightmost pedal.

So maybe I'm off the mark on what they're drawn to.

SFBadger96 · « **Reply #2787 on:** April 14, 2025, 04:25:05 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on April 14, 2025, 12:41:00 PM

I like my daughter's Mustang pretty well. Just curious, what current cars do you consider to be fun to drive?

Super busy this week...
I like cars that have responsive handling. The Mustangs I drove (including stiffened suspension "high performance" versions) all had very loose steering. It is fun to stomp on the Mustang's gas pedal.

The rumble of the engine is definitly part of the charm. I like the rumble, too. But not enough to make up for the lack of responsive handling. For gearheads / adrenaline junkies, it's part of the experience, but the amount of torque electrics generate is likely enough to convert most of them.

utee94 · « **Reply #2788 on:** April 14, 2025, 04:42:23 PM »

Quote from: SFBadger96 on April 14, 2025, 04:25:05 PM

Super busy this week...
I like cars that have responsive handling. The Mustangs I drove (including stiffened suspension "high performance" versions) all had very loose steering. It is fun to stomp on the Mustang's gas pedal.

The rumble of the engine is definitly part of the charm. I like the rumble, too. But not enough to make up for the lack of responsive handling. For gearheads / adrenaline junkies, it's part of the experience, but the amount of torque electrics generate is likely enough to convert most of them.

So what I'm asking is, what current cars meet this criterion for you?

And our Mustang's steering is pretty tight, I definitely would never describe it as "loose." The Jeep on the other hand...

SFBadger96 · « **Reply #2789 on:** April 14, 2025, 04:54:01 PM »

Honda accord, Honda Civic, Ford Mach-E, Mazda 3, BMW sedans, Audi sedans--those are the cars I've been in/driven recently enough to say.

Mustang handled better than any SUV (other than the Mach-E) or truck that I've driven recently. For sure.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #2790 on:** April 14, 2025, 05:12:04 PM »

Try an AMG C43 or C63. Lots of fun and also practical. I had one as a rental one time.

@Honestbuckeye can tell you all about the AMG C class. He owned one.

utee94 · « **Reply #2791 on:** April 14, 2025, 05:25:30 PM »

Quote from: SFBadger96 on April 14, 2025, 04:54:01 PM

Honda accord, Honda Civic, Ford Mach-E, Mazda 3, BMW sedans, Audi sedans--those are the cars I've been in/driven recently enough to say.

Mustang handled better than any SUV (other than the Mach-E) or truck that I've driven recently. For sure.

None of those seem particularly "fun" to me. But if those are what you like the feel of, then that's a pretty low bar you've set for a "fun" car, and you should have plenty of options.

MikeDeTiger · « **Reply #2792 on:** April 14, 2025, 05:39:10 PM »

My buddy in Austin had a Porsche when I lived with him that he occasionally let me drive when I guilted him into letting me. It's the only Porsche I've ever driven, but I remember it well. I guess I would've gotten used to it, but while the acceleration was great, the steering was too tight for my liking. Not something I ever thought I'd say prior to that. I dislike loose steering and generally the tighter the better, for me.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #2793 on:** April 14, 2025, 05:42:40 PM »

I've driven a couple of different 3-series BMWs, including one M3.

I found the feedback from car to driver to be enjoyable in every single one.

FearlessF · « **Reply #2794 on:** April 14, 2025, 05:48:19 PM »

how did a big guy like you get in & out of a 3 series?

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #2795 on:** April 14, 2025, 06:06:49 PM »

Quote from: FearlessF on April 14, 2025, 05:48:19 PM

how did a big guy like you get in & out of a 3 series?

With great difficulty

I didn't say I've OWNED one... Two of them were owned by a buddy, and I only drove them a few times and rode in them not THAT many more. The third was my wife's car when we met, and I drove it occasionally and rode in it occasionally. I primarily drive us, so more often we'd be in my Jeep or once I got the Flex in early 2017, in that.

I'm just saying that they're enjoyable to drive. Not that they were comfortable to drive...

SFBadger96 · « **Reply #2796 on:** April 14, 2025, 06:20:32 PM »

Quote from: utee94 on April 14, 2025, 05:25:30 PM

None of those seem particularly "fun" to me. But if those are what you like the feel of, then that's a pretty low bar you've set for a "fun" car, and you should have plenty of options.

Generally agree--these are not especially "fun" cars--but they all handle better than the Mustangs that I drove recently, which is what turned me off to the Mustang. There are lots of cars out there that other people like that I don't, and vice versa, so in the abstract, you do you. I was just surprised that the Mustang didn't handle better.

And "handle better" is probably wrong; it's "feel more responsive." The Mustang may very well handle turns better than these cars, but the steering was much less responsive, which, again, surprised me.

SFBadger96 · « **Reply #2797 on:** April 14, 2025, 06:28:26 PM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 14, 2025, 05:12:04 PM

Try an AMG C43 or C63. Lots of fun and also practical. I had one as a rental one time.

@Honestbuckeye can tell you all about the AMG C class. He owned one.

Pricey. I like cars, but I'm not willing to spend that kind of money on them. Too practical to really be a car guy. It's one of the things that made the Mustang seem hopeful--it's affordable. Oh well.

utee94 · « **Reply #2798 on:** April 14, 2025, 06:39:25 PM »

Quote from: SFBadger96 on April 14, 2025, 06:20:32 PM

Generally agree--these are not especially "fun" cars--but they all handle better than the Mustangs that I drove recently, which is what turned me off to the Mustang. There are lots of cars out there that other people like that I don't, and vice versa, so in the abstract, you do you. I was just surprised that the Mustang didn't handle better.

And "handle better" is probably wrong; it's "feel more responsive." The Mustang may very well handle turns better than these cars, but the steering was much less responsive, which, again, surprised me.

Thanks for the advice. You don't have to get all sensative about it.

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