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Topic: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2689 on: March 10, 2025, 10:02:03 AM »
a CT5 would be much better with rear seat and cargo space

but, the point remains, American GM engineering wins again!
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2690 on: March 10, 2025, 10:04:23 AM »
I note that M-B was not included. If it was, well, you know.
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2691 on: March 10, 2025, 10:05:27 AM »
What would be the M-B equivalent?  

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2692 on: March 10, 2025, 10:05:52 AM »
C63.
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2693 on: March 10, 2025, 10:09:16 AM »
2025 Mercedes-AMG C63 Review, Pricing, and Specs

It might be too expensive to have included, dunno.


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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2694 on: March 10, 2025, 10:18:23 AM »
10 Fastest Naturally Aspirated Sports Cars Of All Time
That's all good and fine but I'd much rather have the American Muscle car era.Where ya know average guys could not only afford to purchase but with any mechanical ability and a Chilton's manual could wrench on them 😎
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2695 on: March 10, 2025, 10:19:38 AM »
C63.
Actually no.   The C53 AMG would be the comparison- since this is a comparison of 6 cylinder cars.   The 63 is a V-8 beast- and a hell of a car.   But it is a bigger class.  Having just owned one, comparing it to the CT4- V Blackwing is mars and Venus. 

And the comparison that CDawg posted above does not surprise me.  Car and driver keeps giving the black wing a 10 out of 10 on their grading scale, which is unheard of and it was named sedan of the year multiple years in a row.   The ride and handling balance, which generally require opposite mechanical pieces, maybe the best I’ve ever experienced, And why it might be the favorite of all the cars I’ve ever owned
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2696 on: March 10, 2025, 10:20:01 AM »
Those muscle cars were nice in some respects, but a nice one today would be very expensive obviously.

But most weren't that fast, handled and braked poorly, and consumed gas with alacrity.  They also needed frequent maintenance.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2697 on: March 10, 2025, 10:21:49 AM »
For me, having a manual transmission option in such a car is pivotal, even if it's a bit slower.

If I were interested, I'd go for the CT4  V BW.  I do dislike their naming wobbles.

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« Reply #2698 on: March 10, 2025, 10:38:58 AM »
Actually no.  The C53 AMG would be the comparison- since this is a comparison of 6 cylinder cars.  The 63 is a V-8 beast- and a hell of a car.  But it is a bigger class.  Having just owned one, comparing it to the CT4- V Blackwing is mars and Venus.

And the comparison that CDawg posted above does not surprise me.  Car and driver keeps giving the black wing a 10 out of 10 on their grading scale, which is unheard of and it was named sedan of the year multiple years in a row.  The ride and handling balance, which generally require opposite mechanical pieces, maybe the best I’ve ever experienced, And why it might be the favorite of all the cars I’ve ever owned
Ah, OK. didn't realize they were all 6'ers.
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2699 on: March 10, 2025, 11:23:31 AM »
That's all good and fine but I'd much rather have the American Muscle car era.Where ya know average guys could not only afford to purchase but with any mechanical ability and a Chilton's manual could wrench on them 😎
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2700 on: March 10, 2025, 11:25:22 AM »
2025 AMG CLE 53 Coupe | Mercedes-Benz USA

It could have been in the comparison.  

2025 Mercedes-AMG CLE53 Review, Pricing, and Specs

I'd note the opinions of C&D writers are of course just that, any of us can easily prefer another model that they don't like quite a much.  The AWD feature could be strongly preferred up north.

Like the Benz-branded CLE450, the CLE53 comes with a turbocharged 3.0-liter inline-six that's assisted by a 48-volt hybrid system. But here this powertrain is tuned up from 375 horsepower to 443 with an increase in turbo boost pressure and reworked engine internals. A nine-speed automatic transmission and all-wheel drive are both standard. 

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2701 on: March 10, 2025, 11:54:56 AM »
A kind of vehicle I miss a bit in my dottage is something really comfortable and nice inside.  Cadillac used to make them, and Lincoln, and then Lexus, I guess the exist, probably a bit pricey.  I don't really need "cornering" that much.  

The Tuscon is very quiet at speed which is a large comfort aspect.  The interior of course is pretty meh.

 

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