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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2493 on: November 19, 2024, 11:25:16 AM »
Opting for the Precision package puts an additional $9000 on top of the CT5-V Blackwing’s $96,990 base price, and selecting it also requires adding the $9000 carbon-ceramic brakes, effectively making it an $18,000 option.

guessing I wouldn't need the $18,000 option
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2495 on: November 19, 2024, 02:53:09 PM »
A recent study has found that Elon Musk’s Tesla EVs have the highest fatal accident rate of all car brands in the United States, with a rate that is twice the industry average.

Road & Track reports that a new study conducted by iSeeCars has revealed that Tesla vehicles have the highest fatal accident rate among all car brands in America. The study, which analyzed data from the U.S. Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) for model year 2018–2022 vehicles involved in crashes between 2017 and 2022 that resulted in occupant fatalities, found that Tesla vehicles have a fatal crash rate of 5.6 per billion miles driven. This is double the average fatal crash rate of 2.8 per billion vehicle miles driven for all cars in the United States.

Breaking down Tesla’s individual EVs, the Model S has a fatal crash rate of 5.8 per billion vehicle miles driven, more than double the average. Even more concerning, the Tesla Model Y, which is currently the best-selling vehicle in the world, has a fatal crash rate of 10.6 per billion vehicle miles driven, nearly four times the average. The Model Y ranked as the sixth worst vehicle overall in terms of fatal crash rates.


Despite these alarming findings, the study’s authors emphasize that the results do not necessarily indicate that Tesla vehicles are inherently unsafe or have design flaws. In fact, Tesla vehicles are equipped with advanced safety technology, and the 2024 Model Y was even named a Top Safety Pick+ award winner by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS). Many other cars that ranked highly on the list have also received high safety ratings from organizations like IIHS and the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration (NHTSA).

So, what could be contributing to the high fatal crash rates of Tesla vehicles and other ostensibly safe cars on the list? According to iSeeCars executive analyst Karl Brauer, the models on the list likely reflect a combination of driver behavior and driving conditions that lead to increased crashes and fatalities. “A focused, alert driver, traveling at a legal or prudent speed, without being under the influence of drugs or alcohol, is the most likely to arrive safely regardless of the vehicle they’re driving,” Brauer said in the report.

It is possible that the advanced technology and features in Tesla vehicles, such as the Autopilot system, may be contributing to a false sense of security among drivers, leading them to engage in riskier behavior behind the wheel. An NHTSA report issued in April calls Tesla’s lax driver engagement system a “critical safety gap.”
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2497 on: November 20, 2024, 08:00:18 AM »
Nice car.
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2498 on: November 20, 2024, 08:25:06 AM »
I like the interior, and it's pretty fast considering with decent mpgs on premium.


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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2499 on: November 20, 2024, 08:33:32 AM »
You just described my car.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2500 on: November 20, 2024, 08:37:01 AM »
Nice car.   Well put together and a pleasure to drive

I would definitely not call it fast though.  
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2501 on: November 20, 2024, 08:37:41 AM »
I used premium in the GTI (Costco usually).  I do like using regular now.  My pitching coach drives a Mercedes SUV of some sort, midsized, it's nice inside.

Most cars today are "pretty good", I think, your personal preference around style can be a difference maker.  My wife says they all look the same, and among the small "CUVs", that is about true.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2502 on: November 20, 2024, 08:40:15 AM »
Nice car.  Well put together and a pleasure to drive

I would definitely not call it fast though. 
I termed it "pretty fast", 0-60 under 5 seconds to me is pretty fast.  For sedans, it starts to require enormous horsepower to get under 4 seconds and then to get under 3 usually means AWD and a lot of power (or rear engine).

Then there is "fast enough", which for me is around 7 seconds.  The 40-70 time might be more important.

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« Reply #2503 on: November 20, 2024, 09:07:55 AM »
I termed it "pretty fast", 0-60 under 5 seconds to me is pretty fast.  For sedans, it starts to require enormous horsepower to get under 4 seconds and then to get under 3 usually means AWD and a lot of power (or rear engine).

Then there is "fast enough", which for me is around 7 seconds.  The 40-70 time might be more important.
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2504 on: November 20, 2024, 09:10:52 AM »
A few times, I pushed our 2014 CTS in the mountains a bit, it was enjoyable, it had the "Magnaride" suspension and low profile tires, but the turbo 4 limited it to 0-60 around 6 seconds.  For a pretty large car, it was funish.  The GTI was about as fast, but having a stick shift made it much more fun, for me.

I can recall when 9 seconds was pretty fast.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #2505 on: November 20, 2024, 09:14:49 AM »
A few times, I pushed our 2014 CTS in the mountains a bit, it was enjoyable, it had the "Magnaride" suspension and low profile tires, but the turbo 4 limited it to 0-60 around 6 seconds.  For a pretty large car, it was funish.  The GTI was about as fast, but having a stick shift made it much more fun, for me.

I can recall when 9 seconds was pretty fast.
Driving a GTI around curves and mountains is about as pleasurable as it gets!
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