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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1148 on: March 24, 2023, 03:56:59 PM »
I'm not a Ford guy, but.............

1956 Continental Mark II

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« Reply #1149 on: March 24, 2023, 04:11:05 PM »

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« Reply #1150 on: March 24, 2023, 04:24:30 PM »
the first 3 1/2 minutes were especially brutal
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« Reply #1151 on: March 24, 2023, 04:26:48 PM »
Yeah I skipped the packaged banter and just looked at the cars.

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« Reply #1152 on: March 24, 2023, 04:28:51 PM »
unfortunately, none of them were anything to be proud of
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« Reply #1153 on: March 24, 2023, 04:43:11 PM »
Eh, they were cool for their time.  I loved my '83 Mustang GLX convertible.


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« Reply #1154 on: March 24, 2023, 04:49:02 PM »
It shows, again, how far things have come.

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« Reply #1155 on: March 24, 2023, 04:54:00 PM »
It shows, again, how far things have come.

Yup.  As you often point out, a modern entry-level Honda sedan out-performs the top muscle cars-- and even some of the top supercars-- of 30-40 years ago.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1156 on: March 24, 2023, 04:58:46 PM »
I had FWD cars "back in the day".  If you pushed them at all in a corner, well, the front would not go where the tires were pointed.  (Understeer).

I have an FWD car now with a fair bit of power and it's never understeered on me.  If I accelerate quickly with it set on Comfort or Normal, the engine bogs down to prevent tire chirp, but if I do it set on Sport, that doesn't happen, I get a bit of wheel spin depending and the engine churns.  Those pony cars had 5.0 L and 5.7 L engines and produced less power than my 2.0 (thanks to a turbo and FI and dual cams and a computer).

It would be interesting to see a video of it running that road course in the hands of someone competent.

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« Reply #1157 on: March 24, 2023, 05:32:39 PM »
The 6.6L turbo trans am of the late 70s, produced around 260-280 net horsepower.

I can only wonder what they could get out of that kind of displacement and turbo power these days.

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« Reply #1158 on: March 24, 2023, 06:42:21 PM »
well, a turbocharger and supercharger are not exactly the same thing but,.......

 2015 corvette LT4 supercharged 6.2L V-8 engine is SAE-certified at 650 horsepower at 6,400 rpm and 650 lb-ft of torque at 3,600 rpm
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1159 on: March 24, 2023, 06:47:28 PM »
Turbo supercharger 

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1160 on: March 25, 2023, 08:13:42 AM »
The nature of "sporty EVs" is going to change, I suspect.  They will be clutchless of course, for one thing, have tremendous torque, a lot of low end weight (low CoG), and tires that are perhaps interesting if they go with low rolling resistance as an option.  If they put stickier tires on it would reduce range.  And most will be AWD with a lot of computerisms to send torque to each wheel independently.

They may even have "piped in sound".

I think on balance they will be very fast and rather boring.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1161 on: March 25, 2023, 08:30:40 AM »
I've wondered about EV tires, but not enough to research them.

I suppose gas mileage can be improved with tires that easily slide on the road, but safety?
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