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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1106 on: February 24, 2023, 09:36:52 PM »
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The Porsche 911 Speedster first appeared in 1989 as an homage to the 356 Speedster of the Fifties. Since then, it has returned for the 964, 993, 997, and 991 generations of the rear-engine sports car. That last Speedster was a particular highlight, essentially a GT3 convertible, and it proved to be a hit with customers, selling all 1948 planned examples in swift fashion. Now, Porsche will reportedly soon release a 992 Speedster that continues in the vein of its predecessor.

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The 992 Speedster will make its debut at the Los Angeles Auto Show, the U.K.'s Car magazine reports. The November event is one of Porsche's favorite venues for important new models (last year, the company brought out the 911 Dakar). Like the 991, the 992 Speedster will apparently share its 4.0-liter naturally aspirated flat-six with the 911 GT3, and receive a cut-down windshield and a large rear clamshell with aerodynamic hoops behind the seats. Unlike the 991 and every other Porsche Speedster, Car says the 992 will have a power-operated top, and additional luggage space behind the seats.

Traditionally, a Porsche Speedster is a stripped-back lightweight, and in the case of the 911, that means doing away with the power top mechanism. A power soft top might not be the purist's choice here, but the Speedster's manual tops are finicky at best. Owners might welcome the convenience at the expense of weight.

It's easy to see why Porsche is making another Speedster. Enthusiasts trip over themselves to buy any special-edition 911 that comes down the pike, so this is easy profit for Porsche. Plus, this is Porsche's 75th year, so all the more reason to do more special editions.

The last Speedster carried a $275,000 MSRP, and we wouldn't be surprised to see this one crest the $300,000 mark. What is almost certain is that Porsche enthusiasts will put down whatever it costs to get one.
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1107 on: March 12, 2023, 05:58:37 PM »
May be an image of 1 person, car, outdoors and brick wall
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1108 on: March 13, 2023, 06:50:14 AM »
I wonder if there is more of a market for a "stripped down" vehicle, a sports car with no AC etc. and very light weight, per above.  I wonder how much one could strip from a car to save weight, power windows?  I don't think the manual mechanisms exist any more for new cars.  Power seats?  They have to be fairly heavy.  Take out the fancy stereo system.  Use smaller diameter wheels.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1109 on: March 13, 2023, 08:14:25 AM »
For the 1955 model year, Chevrolet’s passenger car was transformed

For the 1955 model year, Chevrolet’s passenger car was transformed by a ground-up redesign that offered something that the previous years didn’t– stylish sizzle. The wheelbase and series names, One-Fifty, Two-Ten and Bel Air, were about the only things that were carried over. 1955 brought about big improvements that included better brakes, handling, steering and interior room. New was the 265 cubic-inch V8 (162 hp) and an improved 235 cubicinch six-cylinder engine (123 and 136 hp versions). The Bel Air-based Nomad was also introduced for the ’55 model year. Chevy had transitioned from producing a pedestrian family car to a distinctive, sporty, youthful car. Other than the dramatic new styling, the new V8 was probably the most important feature for the 1955 model– the most changed Chevrolet since World War II. With a slick new body and that powerful new engine, Chevrolet advertised the 1955 as “The Hot One”. Models available ranged from 2 to 4 door, sedan, coupe, station wagon, and convertible. Solid, as well as twotone colors were available with the upper fenders, roof and rear deck painted one shade and a chrome strip molding separating the body side color. Chevrolet produced a record number of cars and trucks in 1955, which accounted for a quarter of all car and truck sales in the United States. The 1955 Chevy had a classic simplicity of design that was a great success, and new power to match!
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1110 on: March 13, 2023, 08:21:52 AM »

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1111 on: March 13, 2023, 08:22:19 AM »

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1112 on: March 13, 2023, 08:53:26 AM »
That is a pretty dramatic styling change of course, and it worked.

The Chevrolet 265 V8 was first introduced in 1955 and was the first small block V8 ever produced by GM. The 265 was designed for the most part to save the Corvette from being chopped due to the fact that only 700 Corvettes were sold for the 1955 model year. People were looking for something stronger than the Chevy 235 which was only good for 150 horsepower. So in just a little less than 4 months the 265 went from the drawing board to a production engine. This impressive little small block V8 produced between 162 and 195 horsepower depending on the carburetor setup and greatly helped revive the numbers of sells for the Corvette.

Although the 265 Chevy V8 did a lot for the evolution of the small block engines it was chopped for the 1957 production year and replaced by the popular Chevy 283 V8 small block. One major drawback that the 265 V8 had was that it was produced with nothing built into the block to assist with the filtration of oil. There was an oil filter that was added during production on the housing for the thermostat but it was not adequate enough to give the engine any long term durability.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1113 on: March 13, 2023, 10:24:52 AM »
I wonder if there is more of a market for a "stripped down" vehicle, a sports car with no AC etc. and very light weight, per above.  I wonder how much one could strip from a car to save weight, power windows?  I don't think the manual mechanisms exist any more for new cars.  Power seats?  They have to be fairly heavy.  Take out the fancy stereo system.  Use smaller diameter wheels.
I looked at the difference between the LT1 and LT2 trim packages in the C8 Corvette

There would be some weight saved (50lbs?) and also $7,300

14 Bose speakers instead of 10?
Head-up display - never tried it
wireless charging - I don't mind the cord
connected navigation system - my phone words OK
performance data and video recorder
universal home remote - not saving weight, still gonna have the garage door clicker
heated folding outside mirrors
Front camera - for the bumper/spoiler
rear camera mirror - probably tough to see out the back window
memory driver and passenger seats - 8 way power seat for passenger - some weight saving on the passenger side
heated and ventilated seats and heated steering wheel
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The LT3 - $4,650 more than the LT2
Maybe another 50lbs added
Fancy seat and steering wheel

but, it seems not many LT1s are purchased compared to the others and resale might be less.
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1114 on: March 13, 2023, 10:38:40 AM »
Yeah, I think to build a light(er) weight Corvette, you'd need to take out the AC to start and think about smaller wheels.  Maybe with more use of lighter materials you could chip off 100 pounds, probably not worth the bother, with limited market.

Power seats?  Might be another 15 lbs.  Take out the radio and speakers?  Ten lbs?


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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1115 on: March 13, 2023, 10:54:57 AM »
mostly old men own these relatively expensive sporty cars and want some luxury

the memory seat comes with an "exit setting" to get out easier.
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1116 on: March 13, 2023, 10:58:30 AM »
Yeah, but there can be a small market for slimmed down track cars, akin to the Z06/7.  I think it's a very small market.

My wife is still on me about getting in and out of the GTI because it's "low"(ish), and of course the 'Vette is quite a bit lower.

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« Reply #1117 on: March 13, 2023, 12:04:08 PM »
hah, she wishes for the SUV
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1118 on: March 13, 2023, 12:15:52 PM »
I don't do any "spirited driving" any more beyond pushing a bit in a cloverleaf etc.  I might as well have a RAV 4.


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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #1119 on: March 13, 2023, 12:19:24 PM »
I'm the same, but I'd guess I might do a bit more spirited driving behind the wheel of the C8 than the RAV4.

And I'd rather be seen and arrive in the C8.
not that it would impress anyone but me

back in my youth your car was a statement of your personality
not so much anymore
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