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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2020, 02:50:05 PM »
Front engine rear wheel drive cars can't be that fast off the line.  I think the fastest 0-60 time I've seen for one (stock) is 2.9 seconds, and that was a bit suspect.  That is crazy fast of course, but rear/mid engine supercars get well into the twos, and I think the Porsche Turbo S is 1.9 seconds.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #57 on: April 27, 2020, 07:15:33 PM »
For the record, there were two varieties of the Shelby Cobra.

The first one was a modified AC Ace with a Ford small-block (260/289) V-8 stuffed into it, replacing the previous L-6.



This was the Mark I.  It had an ancient transverse-leaf suspension on both ends and a recirculating-ball steering system.  After 75 were produced, the 260 engine was replaced with a 289 (same block).  51 Mark Is with the 289 were produced.

Starting with the 127th car, the steering was changed to a rack-and-pinion design.  This was the Mark II, of which some 528 were built.

The Mark III, which is what nearly all replica Cobras are built to look like, was much different.  It had a coil-spring suspension at both ends, redesigned, heavier, stiffer chassis, and modified bodywork (the fender flares and the vents behind the front wheel openings are the easy giveaways), plus a big-block 427 V8 engine.  This one would do 185 mph in competition tune.



Only 56 of the planned 100 competition models were produced, and Shelby did not get it homologated for racing at the time.  Of those 56, only 25 were sold as racers.  The other 31 were detuned and fitted with windscreens, and sold called "S/C" (for semi-competition) models.

There were 250 Mark III production models.  Some of the later ones had 428 engines, cheaper, with longer stroke and smaller bore, than the 427.

Replicas of this are what we see on the streets.  However, very few of them have big-block engines in them, much less 427s.  Most have either small-block 302 V8s or tall-deck small-block 351 V8s in them.
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #58 on: April 27, 2020, 07:26:13 PM »
Honestly it might be sacrilege, but the Cobra I'd take would be essentially a modern chassis and frame and suspension, hidden behind the iconic Cobra body.

I've I got stupid rich, I'd buy a REAL Cobra, for whatever it cost, and it would likely almost never leave the garage. 

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #59 on: April 27, 2020, 11:18:09 PM »
so, my golfing buddy is at the course tonight in his 2015 Z06 Vette

He's had this car for 5 years and I've never seen it or heard about it until tonight!

It has less than 1,000 miles on it.

holy moly, a 6.2 liter with 650 hp and 650 FP of torque

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #60 on: April 28, 2020, 08:09:27 AM »
Yeah, and the Z06 is not the top of the line.  The C8 top of the line apparently is going to be called a "Zora" and have 1,000 hp, with electric motors driving the front wheels.

That seems like a lot of engineering investment to make a car to sell a few hundred a year, but Cadillac developed a "Blackwing" V8 engine and barely used that in anything.

It will not fit in the CT5 engine bay.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #61 on: April 28, 2020, 09:18:24 AM »
I think if I wanted a "true sportscar" and had say $80 K to burn on a lark, I'd get this:



https://www.caranddriver.com/porsche/718-boxster

Not everyone will understand the magnificence of the 2020 Porsche 718 Boxster, especially compared with click-bait rivals such as the all-new 2020 Chevy Corvette. Still, those who have experienced the convertible Porsche's perfectly balanced chassis and serene steering will see the light and understand why it made our 10Best list again. Despite their rough-sounding engines, the Boxster's trio of turbocharged flat-fours will otherwise charm with speedy acceleration and a pair of terrific transmissions. This soft-top sports car isn't intended to be practical. No. The 2020 718 Boxster is meant to put its driver on a pedestal and redefine the sports car genre.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #62 on: April 28, 2020, 11:14:22 AM »
https://www.topspeed.com/cars/bmw/test-drivean-honest-take-on-the-2019-bmw-m240i-xdrive-convertible-ar182966.html



Were I to be more practical, I'd go with this one and be delighted as well.  They sound good too.


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« Reply #63 on: April 28, 2020, 12:12:14 PM »
I really like the way BMWs drive... But I'd never own one. 

I'm the "keep a car for 10+ years if you can" type, and they're not known for holding up well without a lot of money going into them to keep them well. 

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« Reply #64 on: April 28, 2020, 12:30:19 PM »
I think if I wanted a "true sportscar" and had say $80 K to burn on a lark, I'd get this:



https://www.caranddriver.com/porsche/718-boxster

Not everyone will understand the magnificence of the 2020 Porsche 718 Boxster, especially compared with click-bait rivals such as the all-new 2020 Chevy Corvette. Still, those who have experienced the convertible Porsche's perfectly balanced chassis and serene steering will see the light and understand why it made our 10Best list again. Despite their rough-sounding engines, the Boxster's trio of turbocharged flat-fours will otherwise charm with speedy acceleration and a pair of terrific transmissions. This soft-top sports car isn't intended to be practical. No. The 2020 718 Boxster is meant to put its driver on a pedestal and redefine the sports car genre.
not sure I could get a set of golf clubs in the trunk
Obviously, most of these sports cars are small and luggage space isn't a high priority 
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #65 on: April 28, 2020, 12:32:30 PM »
Clubs fit fine in the Boxster. Just take your woods out and lay them across the back portion of the trunk. The bag (if it's a carry/stand bag) will fit with the irons still in the bag.May 10, 2005

For most who own one of these, it's a second car, not a primary.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #66 on: April 28, 2020, 12:58:08 PM »
might be a 2nd car, but I'd really like to enjoy driving it to a from the course

I suppose I could make it work
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« Reply #67 on: April 28, 2020, 01:47:26 PM »
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #68 on: April 28, 2020, 01:52:54 PM »
Yup that's a pretty car, badge.

My i s c & a aggie wife likes the one they use as the Formula 1 pace car:


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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #69 on: April 28, 2020, 02:04:23 PM »

I've I got stupid rich, I'd buy a REAL Cobra, for whatever it cost, and it would likely almost never leave the garage.
If you can afford another one, drive the one you bought.  I don't understand having a dream car and not driving it.  If it's an investment, then call it that.  If it's a dream car, ENJOY it.
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