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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #350 on: May 05, 2020, 12:28:39 PM »
We lost a sale on our house in Cincy because the man's truck didn't fit in our standard sized garage.  They were prepared to pay full price on it two days after listing.

Then he measured and was 2 inches short on length.


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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #351 on: May 05, 2020, 12:30:19 PM »
One nice comparison of growth is the Honda Accord (a nice vehicle IMHO) from it's early days to now.  It was a subcompact back then.

I saw a new 911 when we were walking, I'm pretty sure it is a good bit larger today, wide in particular.

It's almost as if WE are larger or something.

That was a nice walk today, we strolled through the subdivision north of us, it's amazing how much new construction is going on in a 100 year old residential area.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #352 on: May 05, 2020, 12:56:12 PM »
Cars have not just gotten larger on the outside, they are thicker and denser on the inside.  The old Austin Healy "Bugeye" Sprite had an 80" wheelbase, length of 137.01", width of 52.99", and height of 47.2" with the top up.
Yet reasonably tall men--pushing 6 feet--could sit in it in relative comfort.
No way that would happen in a car that size today.
Was it CD who commented upthread about how today's Minis are much bigger than the original Minis?
The original 1959 Morris Mini-Minor--in "saloon" configuration--was even smaller in one dimension than the Bugeye Sprite--wheelbase of 80.2", length of 120.2", width of 55", height of 53".  It weighed 1,279 pounds.
The smallest version of the BMW "Mini" has a 97" wheelbase, length of 142.8", width of 66.5", height of 55.9", and weighs 2,315 lbs.
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #353 on: May 05, 2020, 01:05:28 PM »
Yeah, the thickness of the doors and body panels in those old cars was scary really.  And new cars are a lot more stiff which translates into better handling.

US car models started shrinking after the 1974 oil debacle and Japanese cars started expanding.  I think the modern Civic is larger than the original Accord, I know it weighs more.  But building a larger car hardly costs more than building a small car.


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« Reply #354 on: May 05, 2020, 02:02:58 PM »
Yup.  Lots of cars and vehicles are. 

Nothing exceeds like excess! :)



I blame the state of Texas for glamorizing bigger is better 
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« Reply #355 on: May 05, 2020, 02:05:11 PM »
The '53 Corvette had a 102" wheelbase, total length of 167.3", was 69.8" wide, was 51.5" high, and weighed 2,886 pounds.
The 2020 Corvette has a 107.2" wheelbase, total length of 182.3", is 76.1" wide, is 48.6" high, and weighs 3,366 pounds.
Those figures are per the Font of All Wisdom and Knowledge.  I have to say that the height measurements surprise me.  The '53 looks significantly lower rather than almost 3" taller.
looks can be deceiving, perhaps the bright white adds ten pounds to the cream color

the C8 looks much larger in all aspects in the pic - to me 
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #356 on: May 05, 2020, 02:21:04 PM »
looks can be deceiving, perhaps the bright white adds ten pounds to the cream color

the C8 looks much larger in all aspects in the pic - to me
That not-quite white on the '53 was called "Polo White," which may be an indication of the target customer base.
The '53 and '54 Corvettes did not have V-8s in them.  Not even a V-8 option, as Chevy didn't have a V-8 engine.  So Chevy hot-rodded the 235 Straight-6 with 3 carbs and a hotter cam to reach the chest-thumping total of 150 hp.  Chevy didn't have a manual transmission capable of coping with such power, so they put the good old Powerglide 2-speed automatic in the car.
Verrry sporty!
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #357 on: May 05, 2020, 02:32:08 PM »
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a15114087/1954-chevrolet-corvette/

The Chevrolet Series D is an American automobile produced by Chevrolet between 1917 and 1918. Over 4,000 Series D cars were manufactured in the 1918 model year, and it was the first Chevrolet V8 car made. It was not until 1955 that Chevrolet made another V8.


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« Reply #358 on: May 05, 2020, 02:36:29 PM »
A 1918 Chevy V-8.  Ya learn somethin' new every day!
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #359 on: May 05, 2020, 02:39:51 PM »
2020 Corvette VIN-Matched With 1953 C1 Has Amazing Story Behind It

Corvettes are much larger than they started out
I like the one on the left
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #360 on: May 05, 2020, 02:41:37 PM »
And ironically, a Corvette in WW II was the British name for basically a destroyer escort, which is a slower smaller version of a destroyer mostly slated for antisubmarine duty (but which on one occasion attacked a fleet including battleships).  WW 2 destroyers could usually make 35 knots, and the DEs were good for 20 knots.

I think the competitor that drove the Corvette was the Jag XKE as the Vette often adopted features the Jag had a year or three later, like disc brakes and FI and IR differential etc.  The early Vettes were more a lady's car, or for men who were confident in their inherent masculine nature.


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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #361 on: May 05, 2020, 02:42:06 PM »
I like the one on the left
It probably is worth 3 or 4 or 10 of the one on the right.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #362 on: May 05, 2020, 02:43:19 PM »
I blame the state of Texas for glamorizing bigger is better
Well the trux are bigger because as you know they have to be in Alaska.As for Texas - well it's cute :celebrate:
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« Reply #363 on: May 05, 2020, 02:48:54 PM »
Well the trux are bigger because as you know they have to be in Alaska.As for Texas - well it's cute :celebrate:
Texas isn't even cute.  Ugly and horrible.  No pretty women, booze is illegal, a green mist that turns you inside-out, and people steal your kidneys.  So definitely don't move here.


 

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