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Topic: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3444 on: July 30, 2025, 11:44:00 AM »
mine doesn't qualify as a gas guzzler - only 495 hp - EPA-rated fuel economy of 16 MPG city, 25 MPG highway, and 19 MPG combined
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3445 on: July 30, 2025, 11:47:58 AM »
mine doesn't qualify as a gas guzzler - only 495 hp - EPA-rated fuel economy of 16 MPG city, 25 MPG highway, and 19 MPG combined
Ha!  Do you ever see 16 in the city?

My son's ecoboost Mustang factory published numbers claim 22 in the city and 33 highway.

The absolute best I've managed, driving VERY smooth and eco-friendly, is 18 in the city.  And that's just super-unrealistic, like, accelerating so slowly from a stoplight that I'm getting passed by cars that were 10 or 12 deep behind me at the light.  Lifting and coasting to a stoplight that's still 2 blocks away.  That kind of thing.


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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3446 on: July 30, 2025, 12:41:09 PM »
I like to coast out to lights and stop signs and corners - it's also easy on the brakes.

I don't do much city driving - not many cities around here and I'm usually just passing through
I'm getting a bit over 20 mpg with the Vette after 4500 miles or so which I think is good.
The 8-speed dual clutch is pretty aggressive and doesn't allow it to coast very well - always down shifting - it would be better in "tour mode" but...........
and I like to step down on the gas pedal every once in a while
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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3447 on: July 30, 2025, 12:51:06 PM »
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3448 on: July 30, 2025, 12:54:07 PM »
Lee Iacocca was the man with the plan.

I loved my 1986 Chrysler Laser XT Turbo.  Slow and clunky by today's standards, but pretty quick at the time.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3449 on: July 30, 2025, 12:56:41 PM »
I chuckle when someone goes flying by me when we both can see a red light 300 yards ahead.  Then they slam on their brakes as I coast along, sometimes I pass them as they light turns green and I'm in a better lane and am already at some speed.

The hybrid gets better mpgs around town than on the highway.  It gets even better in the mountains, it's a bit odd.  The EPA rating highway is 37 which is ... optimistic and then some.  It's very speed dependent, maybe at 60 it might see 37, maybe.  Driving around 80 intracity it gets around 28 mpg.  I've seen over 40 in the mountains.

Stepping on the loud pedal in a C8 in tour mode would still get going pretty fast.  

The GTI would bog down if I accelerated hard in normal mode, I'd have to put it in sport to avoid that, the tires would chirp a bit in sport.  The Tucson has ECO, Smart (whatever that means it doesn't seem to matter), Sport, and Snow.  I just leave it in ECO unless I'm experimenting.  I'm fine with its acceleration abilities.  They aren't great, they are adequate, and I'm old.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3450 on: July 30, 2025, 12:58:11 PM »
Grandparents had a LeBaron turbo (hardtop). Might have "borrowed" it once or twice before I had my license. By the standards of the day, it was pretty fun.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3451 on: July 30, 2025, 12:58:22 PM »
Lee Iacocca was the man with the plan.

I loved my 1986 Chrysler Laser XT Turbo.  Slow and clunky by today's standards, but pretty quick at the time.
I test drove a small Buick turbo back in the day, manual transmission, Skyhawk?  It had bad turbo lag, and then suddenly whoosh.

The turbos today are pretty awesome.  Did you know a 4 cylinder Mustang these days has 315 hp?

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3452 on: July 30, 2025, 12:59:45 PM »
I test drove a small Buick turbo back in the day, manual transmission, Skyhawk?  It had bad turbo lag, and then suddenly whoosh.

The turbos today are pretty awesome.  Did you know a 4 cylinder Mustang these days has 315 hp?
Indeed I did, I'm currently shopping insurance on one of these...

Very little turbo lag on it, as well.



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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3453 on: July 30, 2025, 12:59:51 PM »
Lee Iacocca was the man with the plan.

I loved my 1986 Chrysler Laser XT Turbo.  Slow and clunky by today's standards, but pretty quick at the time.
I had a Plymouth Sundance Turbo. Pretty damn fast for the day.


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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3454 on: July 30, 2025, 01:01:39 PM »
My hybrid routinely beats 50 mpg on mostly freeway trips; 40s around town. Pretty damn good for a midsized sedan with decent power. I was really frustrated that I only got 43 mpg coming home from the redwoods this weekend, but we had two bikes on the back, and that wrecks aerodynamics.

But it doesn't growl or jump like a V8--nor even like that 315 HP 4-cyl Mustang.

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3455 on: July 30, 2025, 01:12:30 PM »
I think the Tucson has pretty mediocre aerodynamics, and it's "only" a 6 speed with AWD and weighs over 3800 pounds.  I had read before we got it the highway mileage wasn't great.

And this is a "small" SUV.


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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3456 on: July 30, 2025, 01:39:01 PM »
Grandparents had a LeBaron turbo (hardtop). Might have "borrowed" it once or twice before I had my license. By the standards of the day, it was pretty fun.
My grandparents had one as well, and I inherited after my grandma became too old to keep her license; my grandpa had already passed.

I drove it in a surprisingly, uhh, spirited manner for what it was :57:

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Re: Sporty Cars (and trucks too now)
« Reply #3457 on: July 30, 2025, 01:44:16 PM »
I test drove a small Buick turbo back in the day, manual transmission, Skyhawk?  It had bad turbo lag, and then suddenly whoosh.

The turbos today are pretty awesome.  Did you know a 4 cylinder Mustang these days has 315 hp?
Personally I care less about peak HP than I do about the torque curve. If you have to be constantly revving it high up to keep in the powerband, that's fine for a racecar, but boring when it comes to around-town driving. Variable valve timing designs can increase peak HP--my 2014 Flex has 285 hp--but if you have to be north of 5000 RPM to feel it, it's kinda useless in a typical passenger car. 

Low end torque is more important because it's where most of our daily driving occurs. 

Which of course is one area where turbo engines excel...

 

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