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utee94

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #336 on: May 05, 2020, 09:54:06 AM »
The ones on my F150 are 20s.  I'd be fine with smaller, but that's just the way it came (I bought used).


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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #337 on: May 05, 2020, 10:03:22 AM »
Yeah, they range 17" to 20" from the factory.  I think that is one reason trucks today look so much larger than from 1970, in addition to BEING larger.

The old "half ton" terminology is still in use.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #338 on: May 05, 2020, 10:33:57 AM »
The Chevy small block is rather legendary, still being used in a vastly modified form.  I'm not sure it has anything in common with the old 350 etc.
Today's small-block Chevy engine doesn't have much parts interchangeability with the 265 introduced in 1955.  The block casting is even different.  But the 350 was definitely a member of the small-block family.  It was a stroked 327.
The 302, 327, and 350 all had a 4" bore.  The 302 had a 3" stroke, the 327 had a 3.25" stroke, and the 350 had a 3.48" stroke.
The bore/stroke combinations were very similar to the same/similar-sized Ford small block.  The Ford 302 was 4"x3" and the 351 was 4"x3.5".
But they were a bit different the next size down.  Ford's 289 was 4"x2.75", while Chevy's 283 was 3.875"x3".
The 1957 Chevy 283, when equipped with Rochester fuel injection in the Corvette, produced 283 hp, one of the first American production V-8s to do that.
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #339 on: May 05, 2020, 10:35:46 AM »
Personally, on a pickup I actually prefer the look of a smaller wheel and a tire with a little more sidewall.  But I love the way it currently rides so I don't foresee ever buying new wheels for it.  



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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #340 on: May 05, 2020, 10:52:02 AM »
At the extreme today, on pickups that are meant to never drive off roads, you see something like 22" wheels with 35-series-or-lower tires, so it looks like there's just a strip of rubber about 1" thick around the enormous rim.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #341 on: May 05, 2020, 10:52:41 AM »
Personally, on a pickup I actually prefer the look of a smaller wheel and a tire with a little more sidewall.  But I love the way it currently rides so I don't foresee ever buying new wheels for it. 
I'm with you on anything that's off-road capable. You want sidewall. On my Jeep I would never put big wheels and low-sidewall tires... It defeats the purpose. The Jeep is riding on 17s and I'd consider smaller, although I understand the minimum might be 15" or 16" to leave enough room for the brakes.

But on the Flex, it's riding on 20s with a relatively modest profile tire, and I MUCH prefer the look on the Flex with bigger wheels. It would look silly with 17s, much less anything smaller than that. 

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #342 on: May 05, 2020, 10:53:18 AM »
At the extreme today, on pickups that are meant to never drive off roads, you see something like 22" wheels with 35-series-or-lower tires, so it looks like there's just a strip of rubber about 1" thick around the enormous rim.

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I just threw up in my mouth a little...

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #343 on: May 05, 2020, 11:03:26 AM »
I just threw up in my mouth a little...
Heh!

It's even worse when the wheels have "spinners" on them.  So you sit at a light and the giant pickupmobile next to you has its spinners turning and see it out of the corner of your eye and you think you must be moving forward or backward (depending on the direction of spin) because it looks like he's moving.
Maybe spinners have gone out of style, or maybe they've become illegal, because I haven't seen any in quite awhile.
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #344 on: May 05, 2020, 11:08:49 AM »
At the extreme today, on pickups that are meant to never drive off roads, you see something like 22" wheels with 35-series-or-lower tires, so it looks like there's just a strip of rubber about 1" thick around the enormous rim.

[img width=500 height=280.966]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cz8HiMRpI6k/maxresdefault.jpg[/img]
I just threw up in my mouth a little...

Yeah, that's a "look" that I don't get, and never will. But folks should drive what they like.

I'm with you on anything that's off-road capable. You want sidewall. On my Jeep I would never put big wheels and low-sidewall tires... It defeats the purpose. The Jeep is riding on 17s and I'd consider smaller, although I understand the minimum might be 15" or 16" to leave enough room for the brakes.

But on the Flex, it's riding on 20s with a relatively modest profile tire, and I MUCH prefer the look on the Flex with bigger wheels. It would look silly with 17s, much less anything smaller than that.

I will likely never seriously offroad in my pickup.  I've driven it through some fairly sketchy sand with no issues, but I'm not much of a mudder.  So the 20s work fine, and provide a great road experience with a very modest sidewall tire and not overly agressive tread pattern.  I just like the look of a pickup with a smaller wheel and larger sidewall a little more, but like I said I'm not planning on changing anything.

This isn't my truck, but mine's exactly like this, everything stock from the factory.






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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #345 on: May 05, 2020, 11:16:04 AM »
Yeah, they range 17" to 20" from the factory.  I think that is one reason trucks today look so much larger than from 1970, in addition to BEING larger.

The old "half ton" terminology is still in use.
2020 Corvette VIN-Matched With 1953 C1 Has Amazing Story Behind It

Corvettes are much larger than they started out
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #346 on: May 05, 2020, 11:21:25 AM »
2020 Corvette VIN-Matched With 1953 C1 Has Amazing Story Behind It

Corvettes are much larger than they started out

Yup.  Lots of cars and vehicles are. 

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #347 on: May 05, 2020, 11:27:14 AM »
That sounds a lot like the truck I learned to drive on.  It was ancient, and it was either a Chevy or a GMC.  Straight-6, 3-on-the-tree shifter.  Learned to use a clutch right from the start.
I had a very similar experience. We had a 3/4 ton Chevy (mid 70's, don't really remember), 292 Straight 6 with a 4 speed manual transmission. I learned to drive that truck when I was about 13. For a 6 cylinder, it had a lot of torque. 

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #348 on: May 05, 2020, 11:36:00 AM »
I don't like how modern trucks have such low ground clearance in front.  Hell, the front of them are like 5 feet in height.  When did trucks get so damn tall (and still, without the front ground clearance)?
My F250 has plenty of ground clearance. It also sits pretty high. It barely clears the garage door when I pull it in to change the oil and rotate the tires (which I did this weekend, my back still hurts). I'm 6 2" and can barely reach over the fender to take the oil cap off. This truck has no modifications and sits just like it did when it left the factory. If they get much taller, I'll have to build a bigger garage to do service it, or get a smaller truck (I don't see that happening).

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #349 on: May 05, 2020, 12:11:20 PM »
2020 Corvette VIN-Matched With 1953 C1 Has Amazing Story Behind It

Corvettes are much larger than they started out
The '53 Corvette had a 102" wheelbase, total length of 167.3", was 69.8" wide, was 51.5" high, and weighed 2,886 pounds.
The 2020 Corvette has a 107.2" wheelbase, total length of 182.3", is 76.1" wide, is 48.6" high, and weighs 3,366 pounds.
Those figures are per the Font of All Wisdom and Knowledge.  I have to say that the height measurements surprise me.  The '53 looks significantly lower rather than almost 3" taller.
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