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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #168 on: April 30, 2020, 10:19:27 AM »
https://www.0-60specs.com/chevrolet/

A few others were under 7 seconds, but not many.

Interestingly, the Chevy Bolt runs to 60 in 6.3-6.5 seconds, on batteries.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #169 on: April 30, 2020, 10:37:50 AM »


This seems to be a pretty good hot hatch.  It's a three door not counting the hatch.

https://www.caranddriver.com/hyundai/veloster-n


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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #170 on: April 30, 2020, 10:40:10 AM »
I really hate hot hatches.  I understand why they're so beloved in Europe, but I loathe them.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #171 on: April 30, 2020, 10:44:10 AM »
Heh, obviously I own one and like it quite a bit.  It's a good blend of sportiness and practicality for me.  How they look is not much of a concern for me personally.

I wish it had memory seats though, I really miss that.

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« Reply #172 on: April 30, 2020, 10:44:20 AM »
even my small block Nova was at 6.1 in 1970

Chevrolet Nova SS 350 4-speed (man. 4) , model year 1970, version for North America U.S. (up to September)
manufactured by Chevrolet in USA
2-door coupe body type
RWD (rear-wheel drive), manual 4-speed gearbox
gasoline (petrol) engine with displacement: 5733 cm3 / 349.8 cui, advertised power: 223.5 kW / 300 hp / 304 PS ( SAE gross ), torque: 515 Nm / 380 lb-ft, more data: 1970 Chevrolet Nova SS 350 4-speed (man. 4) Horsepower/Torque Curve
characteristic dimensions: outside length: 4811 mm / 189.4 in, width: 1839 mm / 72.4 in, wheelbase: 2819 mm / 111 in
reference weights: base curb weight: 1498 kg / 3302 lbs
how fast is this car ? top speed: 190 km/h (118 mph) (©theoretical);
accelerations: 0- 60 mph 6.1© s; 0- 100 km/h 6.5© s (simulation ©automobile-catalog.com); 1/4 mile drag time (402 m) 14.7© s (simulation ©automobile-catalog.com) 1970 Chevrolet Nova SS 350 4-speed (man. 4) Detailed Performance Review
fuel consumption and mileage: average estimated by a-c©: 20 l/100km / 14.1 mpg (imp.) / 11.8 mpg (U.S.) / 5 km/l, more data: 1970 Chevrolet Nova SS 350 4-speed (man. 4) Specifications Review
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #173 on: April 30, 2020, 11:17:43 AM »
I really hate hot hatches.  I understand why they're so beloved in Europe, but I loathe them.
Out of curiosity, why? It seems like it's a more utilitarian option than some of the smallest sedans/coupes out there if you are a young single person [or couple] and don't need a big vehicle. 

I personally don't view them as something I'd want largely because I'm 6'5" and 41 years old, so a little sporty hatchback, low to the ground, isn't exactly built for me. But I don't "loathe" them...

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #174 on: April 30, 2020, 11:28:31 AM »
I'm 6'4" (or used to be anyway).  I don't have the seat in the GTI all the way back.  It is a bit low to the ground for me, but so are sporty cars in general for obvious reasons.

The GTI of course if FWD, but the general handling flaws of that have been largely suppressed.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #175 on: April 30, 2020, 11:32:13 AM »
That estimated time of 6.1 seconds on the 350 Nova may be "optimistic" if the quarter mile time is 14.7 seconds.  It should still be pulling pretty well at the quarter if it reached 60 in 6.1 seconds.

It probably was traction limited with those old tires (bias ply?).




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« Reply #176 on: April 30, 2020, 12:00:13 PM »
Yes, I don't hate everything about the 71-73s, but they certainly weren't as elegant as the earlier models, and especially the 65-66 which were of course the smallest of them all.
I liked the '67-68 Mustangs better than the '65-66s at the time.  And if one were wanting to resto-mod an old Mustang, the '67-68 models are a better place to start, as they've got a bit more room under the hood for a bigger engine.  They could fit a Ford big-block engine in it and did with the 390.  They'd have more room to put a modern Coyote engine in there.
But the originals were lighter and were a cleaner design.  If I were going to buy an old Mustang and put a 289/302 in it, it would be one of those.
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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #177 on: April 30, 2020, 12:01:32 PM »
Isn't the 351 a bored our and stroked 302?

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #178 on: April 30, 2020, 12:02:15 PM »
I used to chuckle that Ford calls its 302 a 5.0 L engine.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #179 on: April 30, 2020, 12:09:32 PM »
Out of curiosity, why? It seems like it's a more utilitarian option than some of the smallest sedans/coupes out there if you are a young single person [or couple] and don't need a big vehicle.

I personally don't view them as something I'd want largely because I'm 6'5" and 41 years old, so a little sporty hatchback, low to the ground, isn't exactly built for me. But I don't "loathe" them...
Aesthetics.  I think they're ugly.  Like, really really ugly.  They're just a modern Pacer, as far as I'm concerned.

No offense of course to anyone who likes them or owns one, just my opinion obviously.

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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #180 on: April 30, 2020, 12:10:58 PM »
I liked the '67-68 Mustangs better than the '65-66s at the time.  And if one were wanting to resto-mod an old Mustang, the '67-68 models are a better place to start, as they've got a bit more room under the hood for a bigger engine.  They could fit a Ford big-block engine in it and did with the 390.  They'd have more room to put a modern Coyote engine in there.
But the originals were lighter and were a cleaner design.  If I were going to buy an old Mustang and put a 289/302 in it, it would be one of those.
Yup, I like the smaller, cleaner lines on the 65-66.  Strange chrome "scoop-fingers" on the 66 notwithstanding, of course. ;)


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Re: Sporty Cars
« Reply #181 on: April 30, 2020, 12:14:42 PM »
Isn't the 351 a bored our and stroked 302?
Stroked half an inch.  But the block is different.  It's a standard Windsor small-block but with 1/2" taller decks.  So intake manifolds for the regular small-block won't fit on it.
You can get 351 c.i.d. out of a regular Windsor small-block, but you have to use shorter pistons.
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