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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6566 on: July 10, 2020, 12:17:28 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 10, 2020, 12:02:36 PM
Trump has allowed the states to call their own shots so most of any blame goes to the states not the Federal Gov
it's impossible for me to tell if the Fed had power to tell the states what to do and what not to do
when Trump had an idea the blue states didn't like they stated he didn't have that power

I've asked folks here and many other places to provide an example of good solid leadership from elected officials
I have some decent answers but not many and only decent at best

it doesn't appear anyone has the silver bullet for dealing with the virus, similar to dealing with poverty and racism.

blaming the current president that stands behind the podium has always been the answer
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6567 on: July 10, 2020, 12:19:05 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on July 10, 2020, 12:11:37 PM
And He's consistently undermined the states calling their own shots. Remember how He cheered on all the protesters who were against states closing with His "Liberate" tweets? Remember how He wanted all the churches open by Easter? It was His quote of not letting the cure be worse than the disease. Even now He is telling schools to reopen [which I personally agree with BTW] in the fall at full capacity.

You can't claim He left everything to the states when He then tried to tell them what to do, and it was in direct opposition to what they were doing.

He has consistently downplayed the virus which has made it harder for states to enforce any restrictions or guidelines that might help.
Get your facts together, just like your post on the travel ban.  Incorrect.  Also- please stop assuming you are a mind reader and know his motivations.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6568 on: July 10, 2020, 12:21:57 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on July 10, 2020, 12:17:18 PM
as I have said all along POTUS is an idiot. 

Your the first person to fess up to the fact that there is plenty of blame to go around    Allegiances go both ways. 

I have NONE.  Which is why it is so easy to see how totally skewed the media is. 
I think the media goes too far in pretending he's not an idiot
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6569 on: July 10, 2020, 12:38:31 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 10, 2020, 12:17:28 PM

blaming the current president that stands behind the podium has always been the answer
at least from a certain side of the aisle
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6570 on: July 10, 2020, 12:44:50 PM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on July 10, 2020, 12:21:57 PM
I think the media goes too far in pretending he's not an idiot
Impossible.  They have been calling him an idiot, working hard to twist his words when they need to, correctly jumping on his idiotic words when they don’t need twisting, blaming him for everything that is perceived as bad, arguing that anything that could be perceived as good is either not good or someone else should get credit-   Since before he was elected.   They have praised those who made fun of him or threatened him with death, either directly or inferred, and persecuted anything or anyone who defended him or was associated with him.  
I think you know all this.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6571 on: July 10, 2020, 12:48:26 PM »
https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/us-weighs-ban-on-all-flights-from-china-over-virus-outbreak-report-2020-01-28


For those who want to rewrite history about the ban on flights from China.  

By the way- there are credible people who have now escaped from China, alleging validation of their cover up. 

I am proof that you don’t have to be a POTUS supporter to understand what an atrocity they committed here.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6572 on: July 10, 2020, 12:50:13 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on July 10, 2020, 12:19:05 PM
Get your facts together, just like your post on the travel ban.  Incorrect.  Also- please stop assuming you are a mind reader and know his motivations. 
I love it when the best someone can come up with is "get your facts together" and doesn't point to anything I've said that's not factual. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6573 on: July 10, 2020, 12:56:31 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on July 10, 2020, 12:44:50 PM
Impossible.  They have been calling him an idiot, working hard to twist his words when they need to, correctly jumping on his idiotic words when they don’t need twisting, blaming him for everything that is perceived as bad, arguing that anything that could be perceived as good is either not good or someone else should get credit-  Since before he was elected.  They have praised those who made fun of him or threatened him with death, either directly or inferred, and persecuted anything or anyone who defended him or was associated with him. 
I think you know all this. 
That's pretty typical for all presidents. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6574 on: July 10, 2020, 01:15:02 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 10, 2020, 12:38:31 PM
at least from a certain side of the aisle
BULLLLLLLLLSHITTTTTTTTTTT.  If Obama did any one thing Trump has done, you'd consider him the antichrist.  Look up hypocrite in the dictionary, because I'm convinced you don't have an inkling of what it means.  You are ASTOUNDING.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6575 on: July 10, 2020, 01:16:33 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on July 10, 2020, 12:44:50 PM
Impossible.  They have been calling him an idiot, working hard to twist his words when they need to, correctly jumping on his idiotic words when they don’t need twisting, 
They're trying to open the eyes of his blind followers.  And yes, it's a lost cause.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6576 on: July 10, 2020, 01:17:09 PM »
This is getting close.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6577 on: July 10, 2020, 01:26:44 PM »
We passed two police officers coming back from the botanical garden.  Neither had on a mask and neither made any move to give us more room on the sidewalk.

They did smile and say hello.

We have a mask "mandate" in the city now.  Sort of.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6578 on: July 10, 2020, 01:30:49 PM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on July 10, 2020, 12:02:36 PM
Trump has allowed the states to call their own shots so most of any blame goes to the states not the Federal Gov
Oh, no.  There's plenty of blame to go around.

Certainly the federal government could have stepped up in many ways, and have failed more often than not.

The mixed messages from the president is bad enough.  He all but spent months call it a hoax, then not a big deal, then it was China's fault, then he said we need to to open up the economy, he refuses to wear a mask, he's now talking about forcing local and state governments to put kids back to school...

come on man.  Stop giving this guy a pass on everything just because he's on your team.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #6579 on: July 10, 2020, 01:32:30 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 10, 2020, 01:16:33 PM
They're trying to open the eyes of his blind followers.  And yes, it's a lost cause. 
Tone it down man.  We are all friends here.
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