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FearlessF · « **Reply #4886 on:** June 05, 2020, 09:29:47 PM »

Quote from: Mdot21 on June 05, 2020, 05:42:29 PM

Lol. That is the norm. And wake up- they are beating the shit out of people just protesting. The cops are scum. The entire culture is rotten to the core. It’s not a few bad apples. It’s a bunch of rotten ones and a few good apples. Most cops suck at their jobs. The really intelligent and honest people who join the police either burn out, succumb to the culture, of leave. It’s not a breeding ground that attracts or keep the brightest and best.

this is close to how I feel

my cousin was a cop in Dallas and San Jose. He burnt out because of the culture. He went into education, taught criminal justice at UNL for a few years, until he got a more lucrative job in the private sector.

my cousin and I are white and from the Nebraska/Iowa area

bayareabadger · « **Reply #4887 on:** June 05, 2020, 09:47:25 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on June 05, 2020, 05:36:58 PM

The evidence is that they don't get away with it often anyway. The police who pushed that old man were suspended.

I've had a fair number of interactions with police, LEOs, and of those, one was a bit bizarre.

Is there evidence of this?

Mdot21 · « **Reply #4888 on:** June 05, 2020, 10:09:45 PM »

Quote from: bayareabadger on June 05, 2020, 09:47:25 PM

Is there evidence of this?

No. There’s evidence the other way.

99.9% of the time, police don’t get prosecuted for their brutality/murder. And I believe that is an actual stat. It’s either 99% or 99.9%- some ridiculous number like this. They are literally never held accountable. And that’s why you keep seeing this shit happen and why people are protesting in the streets. We’ve had enough. Enough is enough. This shit has to end and it ends now. This is not a battle the police or the politicians will win either. There have been protests going on for almost 2 weeks straight. And it’s not going to stop until there are actual steps toward change taken.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #4889 on:** June 05, 2020, 10:19:57 PM »

Quote from: Mdot21 on June 05, 2020, 10:09:45 PM

No. There’s evidence the other way.

99.9% of the time, police don’t get prosecuted for their brutality/murder. And I believe that is an actual stat. It’s either 99% or 99.9%- some ridiculous number like this. They are literally never held accountable. And that’s why you keep seeing this shit happen and why people are protesting in the streets. We’ve had enough. Enough is enough. This shit has to end and it ends now. This is not a battle the police or the politicians will win either. There have been protests going on for almost 2 weeks straight. And it’s not going to stop until there are actual steps toward change taken.

as long as the protests are peaceful I think you should protest every day forever

Cincydawg · « **Reply #4890 on:** June 06, 2020, 07:08:15 AM »

Quote from: Mdot21 on June 05, 2020, 10:09:45 PM

And it’s not going to stop until there are actual steps toward change taken.

What is an example of an "actual step" that should be taken?

Kris60 · « **Reply #4891 on:** June 06, 2020, 08:53:34 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on June 06, 2020, 07:08:15 AM

What is an example of an "actual step" that should be taken?

Yeah, that is my question too.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #4892 on:** June 06, 2020, 09:15:28 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on June 06, 2020, 07:08:15 AM

What is an example of an "actual step" that should be taken?

Write a letter to your local rep and senators.

FearlessF · « **Reply #4893 on:** June 06, 2020, 09:19:40 AM »

mandatory body cameras with audio and gps tracking

accountability

longhorn320 · « **Reply #4894 on:** June 06, 2020, 09:47:17 AM »

There are 18,000 different police departments in the US with over 700,000 officers

of that white officers number about 35%, Hispanic about 43% and Blacks about 12%

This isnt something where flipping a switch instantly filters to all police agencies

The policies and procedures for our police departments come from the population surrounding that

particular police agency

One police agency may have a lot of problems and another might not

for these reasons any real change can only come from some type of federal review commission

established to guide individual police agencies

anyway thats my 2 cents worth

847badgerfan · « **Reply #4895 on:** June 06, 2020, 09:56:06 AM »

We have a large number of posts on the stream thread dealing with this police stuff. Can we keep it there please?

longhorn320 · « **Reply #4896 on:** June 06, 2020, 10:01:52 AM »

you got it boss Im done anyway cause its a problem with no answer

847badgerfan · « **Reply #4897 on:** June 06, 2020, 10:04:20 AM »

Two huge COVID-19 studies are retracted after scientists sound alarms

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/sns-nyt-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-20200605-mbljonusnbh7pjcyuqv2g5qpge-story.html

The studies, published in renowned scientific journals, produced astounding results and altered the course of research into the coronavirus pandemic.

One undercut President Donald Trump’s claim that certain antimalarial drugs cure COVID-19, the illness caused by the virus, concluding that the medications in fact were dangerous to patients. The other found that some blood pressure drugs did not increase the risk of COVID-19 and might even be protective.

Both studies were led by a professor at Harvard, and both depended on a huge international database of patient medical records that few experts had ever heard of.

But on Thursday, the studies were retracted by the scientific journals in which they had appeared, The New England Journal of Medicine and The Lancet, because the authors could not verify the data on which the results depended.

The retractions may breathe new life into the antimalarial drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, relentlessly promoted by Trump as a remedy for COVID-19 despite a lack of evidence. On Wednesday, after the journals noted concerns about the studies, the World Health Organization announced that it would resume trials of the medications.

But the retractions also raise troubling questions about the state of scientific research as the pandemic spreads. Thousands of papers are being rushed to online sites and journals with little or no peer review, and critics fear long-held standards of even the most discerning journals are eroding as they face pressure to rapidly vet and disseminate new scientific reports.

“It is now clear to me that in my hope to contribute to this research during a time of great need, I did not do enough to ensure that the data source was appropriate for this use,” Dr. Mandeep Mehra, lead author of the two studies, said in a statement to The New York Times.

“For that, and for all the disruptions — both directly and indirectly — I am truly sorry.”

The paper about chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine appeared in late May in The Lancet. Though there had been other hints of side effects associated with the drugs, clinical trials were halted worldwide while alarmed investigators began safety reviews.

But questions arose almost immediately about irregularities in the data and the provenance of the data set used in the analysis as well as in Mehra’s earlier heart study, which had appeared in The New England Journal of Medicine.

The data came from a company called Surgisphere, which claims to have granular patient-level information shared by 1,200 hospitals and health facilities on six continents. The founder and chief executive, Dr. Sapan Desai, was listed as an author on both papers.

Mehra, who is the medical director of the Brigham and Women’s Hospital Heart and Vascular Center in Boston and has authored hundreds of publications, said in a statement that he became involved in the project because he felt a need to contribute to science during the pandemic.

Click on the link above to read more.

longhorn320 · « **Reply #4898 on:** June 06, 2020, 10:09:43 AM »

California is reopening TV and movie production

I wondered just how long they could keep that shut down

good to see it going again

this will make the jobs number jump again for June

longhorn320 · « **Reply #4899 on:** June 06, 2020, 10:12:54 AM »

we are beginning to see an increase in cases probably due to protesting around the country

while the case count has increased the death count continues to decrease so maybe its not that bad

read an article yesterday that scientists think the virus may have mutated to a weaker version

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