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FearlessF

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2590 on: April 23, 2020, 09:51:05 AM »
I've heard about some places of worship that had issues with local law enforcement

apparently, they were not volunteering enough 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2591 on: April 23, 2020, 09:57:56 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 23, 2020, 09:51:05 AM
I've heard about some places of worship that had issues with local law enforcement

apparently, they were not volunteering enough
dont get me wrong I realize we have to starve this virus to kill it but to throw somebody in jail for 180 days for not covering their face 

seems a bit much
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2592 on: April 23, 2020, 10:00:58 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 23, 2020, 09:37:40 AM
and this face mask ruling is supposed to limit the spread how much???

10%, 25%, 50%, 3%??
I think this would be relevant and valuable information to tell the public.  Governmental transparency and all.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2593 on: April 23, 2020, 10:03:06 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 22, 2020, 03:04:49 PM

I want something better for them while they're seemingly refusing to take the steps necessary for that something better.  Yes, the unknown is scary, and as we've said, change is hard.  But it's necessary sometimes.  And not one anecdote changes that, sorry.
And this is the issue, you are an elitist and you know what is better for them. You know what is better for everyone. The hoi polloi are stupid and don't know any better so they should all (and in many cases for you be forced) to do what I want them to do, they are incapable of making proper decisions for their own life. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2594 on: April 23, 2020, 10:09:57 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 22, 2020, 05:13:45 PM
Yes, I know.  I was asking for what it is. 
The balance would be what we have done with other pandemics. Close down and practice isolation in the hot spots. Not this blanket one size fits all shut everything down. 
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longhorn320

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2595 on: April 23, 2020, 10:12:42 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on April 23, 2020, 09:49:50 AM
I've heard to police were called to bars that were allowing folks to come in and have a beer or two

not sure how many were arrested
This happened March 19 in Chicago
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2596 on: April 23, 2020, 10:13:38 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on April 22, 2020, 07:25:32 PM
Yeah, except those lines you see on maps aren't real, they're drawn on.  Millions of people cross them every day, back-and-forth.

Yes and yet it has worked with other pandemics. What makes this pandemic different is not the virus, it is the press and politicians (Republican and Democrat) reactions to it. 
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2597 on: April 23, 2020, 10:54:30 AM »
Quote from: Riffraft on April 23, 2020, 10:13:38 AM
Yes and yet it has worked with other pandemics. What makes this pandemic different is not the virus, it is the press and politicians (Republican and Democrat) reactions to it.
Those are some of the differences, but there are others.  

I think a strong component here, is that our nation is more willing to go to great lengths to protect a very small but highly vulnerable minority.  And part of that, is because we CAN do it.  There's a tremendous cost, but it's now possible to isolate in a way that's never really been possible before.  This wasn't really an option even as recently as two decades ago.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2598 on: April 23, 2020, 10:56:53 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on April 23, 2020, 10:54:30 AM
Those are some of the differences, but there are others. 

I think a strong component here, is that our nation is more willing to go to great lengths to protect a very small but highly vulnerable minority.  And part of that, is because we CAN do it.  There's a tremendous cost, but it's now possible to isolate in a way that's never really been possible before.  This wasn't really an option even as recently as two decades ago.
good point

key word is willing
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2599 on: April 23, 2020, 11:03:48 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on April 23, 2020, 09:57:56 AM
dont get me wrong I realize we have to starve this virus to kill it but to throw somebody in jail for 180 days for not covering their face

seems a bit much
Did that really happen?they are emptying non violent prisons here in Ohio to save from crowding.So they are going to turn around and stoop to this?Good I won't wear my mask either - at least I'll finally get out of Jury duty.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2600 on: April 23, 2020, 11:08:17 AM »
How does Houston define mask? Can it be made of anything? I ask, because you can't find/buy a mask anywhere that actually works to protect yourself.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2601 on: April 23, 2020, 11:09:57 AM »
The point of a mask is not to protect the wearer of the mask, it can't.  The point is to protect others around you.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2602 on: April 23, 2020, 11:10:59 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on April 23, 2020, 11:08:17 AM
How does Houston define mask? Can it be made of anything? I ask, because you can't find/buy a mask anywhere that actually works to protect yourself.
Yes it can be anything.  Scarves, bandannas, anything.  Same thing here in Austin.

Which is a large part of why people are questioning it.  I think it's reasonable for citizens to ask about the effectiveness of using ANYTHING as a face covering, when it is mandated by law and punishable by 180 days in jail and a $1,000 fine.  
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #2603 on: April 23, 2020, 11:13:21 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on April 23, 2020, 11:09:57 AM
The point of a mask is not to protect the wearer of the mask, it can't.  The point is to protect others around you.
I think most people get that.

I think they're also wondering just how effective scarves and bandannas and ski masks are, at stopping droplets from escaping the mouth and nose of the wearer, during a cough or sneeze.

I think it's reasonable for people to wonder this, and to question the government.  If the government doesn't have a legitimate scientific response (and so far, they have not) then I'm not sure there's enough justification for the law.

We're not talking about N95 masks, we're not even talking about surgical masks.  We're talking about scarves. 
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