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this "half in" crap doesn't seem to be working on either end

We don't know that, actually. Because of the lack of testing resources, and because of the median incubation period being ~5 days (but it can be more than that), we haven't been on restriction long enough to have a clue. 

The first lockdown was the Bay Area, 6 days ago. Orange County followed the day after. NY/IL just basically over the weekend. NJ just announced. A lot of states are still only halfway there. 

It'll be at least a week before we can tell if we've slowed anything. And even then we may not know, because the shortages of test kits might mean that as tests become available, we'll start actually confirming the cases that we all expect exist and the numbers may still show exponential growth. 

But I wouldn't say for a second that we can claim the measures taken so far aren't helping. We don't have enough time to claim they are, either. It's too soon to call.

Please note the date of this post by the WHO. China lies.


https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152

We don't know that, actually. Because of the lack of testing resources, and because of the median incubation period being ~5 days (but it can be more than that), we haven't been on restriction long enough to have a clue.

The first lockdown was the Bay Area, 6 days ago. Orange County followed the day after. NY/IL just basically over the weekend. NJ just announced. A lot of states are still only halfway there.

It'll be at least a week before we can tell if we've slowed anything. And even then we may not know, because the shortages of test kits might mean that as tests become available, we'll start actually confirming the cases that we all expect exist and the numbers may still show exponential growth.

But I wouldn't say for a second that we can claim the measures taken so far aren't helping. We don't have enough time to claim they are, either. It's too soon to call.

I would say the measures taken so far are helping, just not enough to fend off lockdowns to this point.
If the end game is lockdown, better to be doing it today than waiting
I'd guess the Bay Area, Orange County, NY, NJ, and IL wish they would have done this sooner in hindsight

Please note the date of this post by the WHO. China lies.


https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1217043229427761152

I would edit this to say "dictators lie when there's really bad news".
(yes this includes Jinping and Trump)

Who is intelligent enough to do what is right?  Bob McNamara and the Whiz Kids?

Not these dumbass kids.

I'm not suggesting martial law or cutting off access to food.
Merely cutting off access to some opportunities for the idiots.

If you're suggesting anything further than the current shut-downs already in place in the largest, most population-dense cities in our country, then you are calling for martial law.  It would be the only way to enforce anything further than what's currently happening.

And martial law isn't going to work for any number of reasons.  

You can call it the dangers of living in a free society, but that's where we are right now.

I assume the Chinese implemented martial law in Wuhan.  

If they did, was it effective?

I suppose their stats aren't reliable, but it would be helpful

I assume Italy did NOT implement martial law or even lock downs since they just restricted parks yesterday.

We have a pretty good idea that what they've done has not been effective