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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #336 on: March 20, 2020, 04:14:30 PM »
We just walked around the park again, it's pretty crowded which makes sense given how many folks are off and it's a very nice day, a bit warm.  People were not in close groups though.  Folks are lined up outside the Nook getting beverages right now, about 10 of them.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #337 on: March 20, 2020, 04:15:36 PM »
The only time I went there I had the lamb burger. Was impressed. Need to try the totchos next time around
The totchos are good, and filling, for $10.  Too filling really.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #338 on: March 20, 2020, 04:24:14 PM »
Too early to tell what it means, but the governor issued a shelter in place order, through 4/7, beginning tomorrow at 5PM.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #339 on: March 20, 2020, 04:29:59 PM »
So, if you're out and about, and they arrest you under some charge I can't imagine, they throw you in a crowded jail with 25 other people?


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #340 on: March 20, 2020, 04:38:49 PM »
So, if you're out and about, and they arrest you under some charge I can't imagine, they throw you in a crowded jail with 25 other people?
There are some lawyers on here, I'm not one of them.  

That said, I did go to lawschool for a while, I just didn't finish.  The executive has pretty wide discretion in responding to a crisis so I imagine the charge would be something along the lines of a failure to disperse or failure to comply with a lawful order.  

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #341 on: March 20, 2020, 04:51:16 PM »
So, if you're out and about, and they arrest you under some charge I can't imagine, they throw you in a crowded jail with 25 other people?
The issue is that there are TONS of loopholes in these orders.

People in essential/critical industries are still going to work. People who need to go to the grocery store, the bank, etc can still be out and about.

I believe that nothing in the order precludes me from setting up a meeting to transfer my kids from my ex-wife per our custody agreement next Friday... (But I'm still looking!)

Heck, the one that occurred in the Bay Area said that walking, running, hiking was all still fine as long as appropriate social distancing was observed. So frankly if I wanted to go hiking this weekend I'd be fine. 

Basically nobody in power wants to "enforce" this. The idea is that by setting the order, people will get the idea that it's not just a suggestion, and they'll modify their behavior because they realize it's serious. The bulk of people staying home except when it's absolutely necessary to go out is a hell of a big step in the right direction.

If it were to become an enforcement issue, it would be on businesses flouting the rules, not really on individuals.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #342 on: March 20, 2020, 04:54:02 PM »
The irony of being jailed for disobeying an order that likely is unconstitutional (that is irrelevant to my point) is ironic.

In France, you can be fined for being out and about, but you can print out a GOOJFC on line that explains why and where you were going.  Some people don't have access to printers etc. of course.  Unless they go out.


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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #343 on: March 20, 2020, 05:06:32 PM »
The irony of being jailed for disobeying an order that likely is unconstitutional (that is irrelevant to my point) is ironic.

In France, you can be fined for being out and about, but you can print out a GOOJFC on line that explains why and where you were going.  Some people don't have access to printers etc. of course.  Unless they go out.
I read about similar in Italy. If you have a legitimate work or family reason to travel [and "travel" was loosely defined in the story I read--I assume it's primarily intercity or air travel, not going to the grocery store] you merely have to carry your own affidavit to why it's necessary.

We had an all-hands call today to talk about all this and one of my colleagues in Italy was on the line, and said basically nothing's open except the grocery stores. So while it might be possible to go out, there's nowhere to go. 

That said, my wife has been talking about having her office print up an official-looking piece of paper for her as the office manager and for the medical assistant in the office such that they could justify their employment in an "essential" sector if stopped. But nobody is planning on stopping people, the best as I can tell. On that all-hands they mentioned that our management has been in near-daily contact with the mayor of San Jose and he flat out said that there is no plan to stop people and demand they justify why they're out.

It's about changing behavior, not about punishment.

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #345 on: March 20, 2020, 05:17:49 PM »
For anyone worried about exposure through food (takeout/delivery/grocery/etc), this should assuage your fears somewhat:

https://www.seriouseats.com/2020/03/food-safety-and-coronavirus-a-comprehensive-guide.html

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #347 on: March 20, 2020, 06:27:46 PM »

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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #348 on: March 20, 2020, 06:59:00 PM »
The state of AZ is still using hope instead of the math, closing schools through April 10th.  As if in 3 weeks, Trump's miracle would have happened by then.  
Let's see.....we're about 10 days behind Italy, and they had their deadliest day from the virus 2 days ago.....so in 3 weeks here, things will be peachy.
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Re: Coronavirus discussion and Quarantine ideas
« Reply #349 on: March 20, 2020, 07:07:08 PM »
My business has been deemed essential, by the executive order just posted. So, we are open and working (from home and in the field - not office).

Thank goodness. I was dreading laying off so many good people.
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