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Cincydawg · « **Reply #9786 on:** October 26, 2020, 06:53:16 PM »

I think protecting the elderly became more of a priority the second time. Many of them likely self protected also.

Obviously, this is serious, and novel, but the political blame game is less important to me than trying to understand what is happening and what steps could be taken now to limit it.

utee94 · « **Reply #9787 on:** October 26, 2020, 06:59:06 PM »

There was never going to be any response that is accepted by all as "perfect" for the fundamental reason that people disagree on how exactly we should respond.

Some people wanted to shut everything down until the virus was eradicated. And some of those people still do.

Some people wanted to go on with life as normal. And some of those people still do.

And a lot of people are somewhere in the middle, wanting to be responsible and wear masks and remain socially distant in order to protect the most vulnerable, while also getting on with life and not jeopardizing the futures of a generation of students, the disadvantaged, the poor and hungry, any more than we already have.

But those fundamental differences in approach, dictate that there was never going to be a universally acceptable response.

Kris60 · « **Reply #9788 on:** October 26, 2020, 07:10:36 PM »

I honestly don’t see how anyone can compare how the US is doing to any other country in the world. There isn’t a country on the planet that has the travel dynamic, both international and domestic, the US has. The US has more international airports than Japan, S Korea, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand do combined. The US has 4 of the busiest 10 airports in the world. Our citizens fly at nearly double the rate of the next closest country.

It is the travel hub of the world. Any comparison to any other country falls under apples and oranges to me.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #9789 on:** October 26, 2020, 07:19:07 PM »

I think gross comparisons are appropriate especially when a country like Sweden takes a different tact. You learn by comparing, understanding the differences.

France had a better figure today at least.

You can also compare state to state experiences to try and see what may be working.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #9790 on:** October 27, 2020, 07:37:13 AM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on October 26, 2020, 06:19:06 PM

True, especially in an election year, it would have been politicized.

But I think we can say that "stick your fingers in your ears and say 'nananananananana' and act like it doesn't exist" is perhaps a much less than perfect response.

When he closed travel to/from China in January (JANUARY) he was labeled a xenophobe by the guy he's running against.

The mayor of New York was encouraging people to come to the city in late February, much like the house speaker was encouraging people to come to Chinatown in SF at the same time.

Nobody (MSM) ever talks about that stuff.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #9791 on:** October 27, 2020, 07:38:35 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on October 26, 2020, 06:59:06 PM

There was never going to be any response that is accepted by all as "perfect" for the fundamental reason that people disagree on how exactly we should respond.

Some people wanted to shut everything down until the virus was eradicated. And some of those people still do.

Some people wanted to go on with life as normal. And some of those people still do.

And a lot of people are somewhere in the middle, wanting to be responsible and wear masks and remain socially distant in order to protect the most vulnerable, while also getting on with life and not jeopardizing the futures of a generation of students, the disadvantaged, the poor and hungry, any more than we already have.

But those fundamental differences in approach, dictate that there was never going to be a universally acceptable response.

Government employees.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #9792 on:** October 27, 2020, 08:00:29 AM »

Haven't heard much about this study since it came out almost two weeks ago. I meant to post it here and forgot (unless I posted it here and forgot).

https://www.ustranscom.mil/cmd/docs/TRANSCOM%20Report%20Final.pdf

We're going to have our kids fly here for Christmas. We are not cancelling it.

MaximumSam · « **Reply #9793 on:** October 27, 2020, 08:37:01 AM »

https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1321027536239943680?s=20

847badgerfan · « **Reply #9794 on:** October 27, 2020, 08:43:10 AM »

Is there a published study on this Max? This is very good news.

MaximumSam · « **Reply #9795 on:** October 27, 2020, 08:48:56 AM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on October 27, 2020, 08:43:10 AM

Is there a published study on this Max? This is very good news.

I think it was more in response to this

https://twitter.com/ReutersUK/status/1321018815770222592?s=20

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #9796 on:** October 27, 2020, 08:59:08 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on October 26, 2020, 06:59:06 PM

There was never going to be any response that is accepted by all as "perfect" for the fundamental reason that people disagree on how exactly we should respond.

Some people wanted to shut everything down until the virus was eradicated. And some of those people still do.

Some people wanted to go on with life as normal. And some of those people still do.

And a lot of people are somewhere in the middle, wanting to be responsible and wear masks and remain socially distant in order to protect the most vulnerable, while also getting on with life and not jeopardizing the futures of a generation of students, the disadvantaged, the poor and hungry, any more than we already have.

But those fundamental differences in approach, dictate that there was never going to be a universally acceptable response.

This.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #9797 on:** October 27, 2020, 09:00:30 AM »

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/27/pfizers-late-stage-coronavirus-vaccine-trial-is-near-complete-enrollment-with-42000-volunteers.html

Presuming the trial was as we all hope, they likely will get emergency use authorization in December, probably for health care workers and those most likely to be exposed.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #9798 on:** October 27, 2020, 09:02:30 AM »

Healthcare workers have not been exposed mush, as was feared early on. They are doing a good job and have the best PPE available.

I think engineers should be first in line.

FearlessF · « **Reply #9799 on:** October 27, 2020, 10:54:28 AM »

the state of Iowa has their vaccine plan ready to go

they haven't given any clues, but they are stating they have a plan

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